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    Platinum Member MESSMAKER's Avatar
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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    I understand if you want to buy something new, but Your Cub Cadet with filled tires(fluid) and wheel weights should take you most anywhere. Lug or atv tires will make it nearly unstoppable.

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    Ive never heard of filling tires with fluid. How does that work?

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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    An x749/x749 with AWS will be way more stable than a bx. Lower center of gravity. Drive wheels always facing drive direction. Wider stance. Add OEM spacers to the rear and I doubt you could turn it over. You'd fall out of the seat first. The best mowing tractor you can buy. BX's are nice little do-it-all machines, but they wouldn't perform as well for the OP's problem.

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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    Quote Originally Posted by MESSMAKER View Post
    I understand if you want to buy something new, but Your Cub Cadet with filled tires(fluid) and wheel weights should take you most anywhere. Lug or atv tires will make it nearly unstoppable.
    I used a cub cadet 129 garden tractor with ATV tires and they were fluid filled up until I got my BX1500 which is 4WD. The old and I mean old cub cadet was made in 1973 and it was a real quality machine. Set up with the ATV tires that were fluid filled it was a tank but not like the 4WD.
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    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftag View Post
    Ive never heard of filling tires with fluid. How does that work?
    It is a common practice to fill the rear and sometimes front tires with fluid for weight. There are several fluids you can use but most people now days use windshield washer fluid or a glycol mix.

    There are some fluids made from beet juice that are heavier than glycol based fluids. The old way was to mix a fluid out of calcium and water but it is corrosive and would eat rims in a hurry if allowed to stay in contact with metal.

    Tires are usually filled to slightly above the height of the rim leaving a bit of an air space for cushioning. The fluid is pumped in through the valve stem.

    The fluid adds weight to the tractor below the center of gravity and helps to keep it from turning over.
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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    Quote Originally Posted by Taftag View Post
    The jd 749is what i was thinking about but its expensive. However it would probably seem less expensive if i hadnt blown a few grand already on my cub ztt 46" with bagger. The jd dealer said blue book on it would be about $1k but i dont't know how to check that. Also wold consider buying used but nobody seems to want to get rid of those 749's in any of the used places ive seem online
    Taft - Seems like I've misread your equipment - thought you own a typical zero-turn mower, but I now see it's a ZTT. I'm quite surprised it's giving you issues on slopes, mine is very stable on side slopes. Perhaps you have REALLY steep slopes! I've never tipped mine over, but I'm leaning so far on in the seat the safety switch is activated a few times..... and, before I had thick grass the whole tractor would slide sideways down the slope, so I would have to turn into the slide and drive out of it.
    In your particular situation, you could try the fluid filled tires, but something like the X749 might suit you better, they are nice machines. Any pics of your slopes?
    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftag
    I have 2 mowable acres with fairly steep side hill/ down hill areas. I bought a cub cadet zero turn tractor 3 yrs ago and have regretted it because it cant handle the hills well and i get scuffs. Thinking about replacing it. Looking for suggestions and if a trade in might be an option because i'm into the cub cadet for over $4k with attachments
    I have the same mower. Ditch the bagger and use the mulch plug. If your clutch isn't adjusted properly, you don't get full power to both drive wheels. Do a search. I paid 25 bucks for a pdf shop manual to figure out something that should have been in the owners manual. When the clutch is released, the pin on the end of the clutch rod should be in the middle of the slot on the idler arm. If it isn't one wheel pulls and ends up scuffing trying to compensate, and it becomes weak on hills it normally pulls like a mule. I figured that out last winter when i was pushing snow... then snowpocolipse occured and i bought a kubota b2620. Anything above 8 inches was too much for the little tractor. LOL!!!

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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    I agree with the others to try all the simple less expensive fixes first such as hdap tires, wheel weights or fluid and adjustment of control levers to specs.


    About the x749,
    I really like the hdap tires as they have great traction without damaging the lawn. I do have 3pt a boxblade, rearblade, landscape rake, pine needle rake, chipper and other tow type spreaders and carts so far it has done a good job handling all of these implements. The thing that sold me on this model was the tight turning radius with all four wheels engaged and the variable hydraulic front wheel drive axle, much less scuffing if all the wheels are pulling at the right speeds. For lawn work I felt this is better than mfwd.

    Most of my uses for the x749 is to perform cleanup in tight places where the larger compact tractors won't fit, so far it has performed admirably. Backing implements such as rakes between trees is much easier with the 4 wheel steer and is something that comes up all the time for me.

    The BX series Kubotas' are good garden tractors as well and a better comparision would be the kubota BX2360 or BX2660 to a Deere x748. The x749 with all wheel steer is quite different from any of these in handling. If you compare the prices I don't see much difference when comparing apples to apples.

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    Default Re: 4wd garden tractors

    Did not aim to launch a product A vs. product B debate by mentioning the BX. The X749 may be John Deere's rendition of the world's finest lawn mower, but there is other equipment out there that would also be a big improvement over his current setup, including the BX. Considering no one else has seen Taftag's place or knows his specific work requirements, it may - or may not - be that a different product would serve him better. Being that we are all eminently sensible, reasonable people, I'm sure we'd all want the OP to consider all the options.

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    Here are some pics that I brought with me when I bought my ZTT1046 in 2008.
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