Buying Advice 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963?

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This is my first post although I have been loitering on a daily basis for several months now.

Ford 2000 Model Number: 21201
Ford 2000 Serial Number: <> 4162 <>

Below I have cut and pasted the codes for the numbers.


Thousand Series tractor serial numbers -
1962 Serial number 1001 - 11947
1963 Serial number 11948 - 38930
1964 Serial number 38931 - up

Decoding the 5 digit model numbers on 2000-4000 series tractors -

First number (1 digit)
2**** - 134 ci gasoline or 144 ci diesel engine
4**** - 172 ci gas, LP-gas or 172 ci diesel engine

Second number (1 digit)
*0*** - Industrial models produced prior to 1963
*1*** - Industrial and agricultural models produced after 1963

Third number (2 digits)
**10 * - Row crop
**11 * - Offset
**20 * - Utility-type w/adjustable front axle
**21 * - Orchard type w/ non-adjustable front axle
**30 * - Utility-type tractor w/non-adjustable front axle (light industrial)
**31 * - Low center of gravity (LCG tractor)
**40 * - Heavy duty industrial tractor w/sub frame
**41 * - Heavy duty industrial tractor w/sub frame & cast grille

Last number (1 digit)
*1**0 - Four-speed w/o PTO
*0**1 - Four-speed w/o PTO or hydraulics
*1**1 - Four-speed w/PTO
*0**2 - Four-speed w/hydraulics, w/o PTO
*1**2 - Five-speed w/live PTO
*0**3 - Four-speed w/hydraulics and PTO
*0**4 - Select-O-Speed w/o hydraulics or PTO
*1**4 - Select-O-Speed w/o PTO
*0**5 - Select-O-Speed w/hydraulics and single-speed (540 rpm) PTO
*0**6 - Select-O-Speed w/hydraulics, 540 and 1000 rpm PTO and ground-speed PTO
*1**6 - Select-O-Speed w/two-speed (540 and 1000 rpm) independent PTO
*1**7 - Select-O-Speed w/540 and 1000 rpm independent PTO and ground-speed PTO
*0**9 - Five-speed w/live PTO


The serial number (4162) designates the tractor is a 1962.

The second digit (1) in the model number (21201) designates the tractor was produced in 1963.

This seems like a contradiction.

Why is the tractor considered a 1962 model if it was produced in 1963?

I actually thought I may have initially misread or miswrote the numbers wrong so I drive 30 miles roundtrip again to verify that the numbers were correct.

Any help or explanation would be appreciated.


Thank You,

Rod Jordan
Pamlico Lawn Care, LLC
Oriental, NC
 
   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #2  
while I have seen a few discrepencies in ford coding, and differences in actual physical year produced vs model year, i would double check one more time to make sure you are not missing a leading '1' or actually probably 'I' on the tractor SN. IE.. I4I62 which would make everything jive perfectly.

also.. what do other casting codes onthe rest of the machine reveal.. generally you see a 1-3 month spread on casting codes between block and trumpets and such for a machine that has not been frankensteined.

soundguy
 
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Thank you Soundguy.

Yes...I checked and rechecked several times.

Here's a shot of it.

The model number on top has the last digit (1) sort of mis-spaced way out to the right.

There doesn't seem to be any room left for an additional digit between the diamond symbols in the serial number on the bottom.

The numbers are clearly legible in person. The photo is a little more difficult to read.

Thank You,

Rod Jordan
Pamlico Lawn Care, LLC
Oriental, NC
 

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   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #4  
hard to say.. I'd use a 3m wheel and buff that piant off. I've seen numbers hid well before.

and again.. it won't be the first model year aberation i've ever seen either.. 62 was the end of the 01 series, and beginning of the 000 series for the model year 63.. that said.. the first ones were surely built in the end of 62. i'll look at my charts closer when i get off work

soundguy
 
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Thank you.

I was thinking of buying this tractor to use for brush hogging and scraping driveways a few times a year.

The owner won't take any less than $2,200.00. He said he just spent almost $600.00 on all new tires. He said he's owned it twenty years and only used it to box blade his driveway a few times a year.

It runs well. I drove it around the yard in each gear for a minute or so. The lift and PTO each work. It was a workout steering it. The proofmeter doesn't work so who knows how many hours are on it...shows 1,6XX.

There are no implements or extra parts included.

I've never owned a tractor so this would be my first. That amount would be about my limit to spend and I'm not into financing one.

Is this too much money for this tractor? Should I look for something else?

Here's some photo's.

Thank You,

Rod Jordan
Pamlico Lawn Care, LLC
Oriental, NC
 

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   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #6  
The published serial number ranges by year are approximate. Serial numbers were assigned when the order was entered into the system, not when the unit was actually built. The build was scheduled when all the neccessary components were available. A significant amount of time could elapse between the two events.
 
   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #7  
price rang is about right.

tires do look good. i see one draglink has angle iron brace on it..no biggie.

tight steering may mean no lube int he box. if the steering wheel rises and falls as you turn side to side, it likely needs 50$ of bearings, and 16$ of lube int he box. manual for steering boxes are pretty esy to rebuild. i've probably done every manual box on my old fords. most recent one early this years.. and.. it was a 63 2000 :)

it's a basic 4 speed. i see it has some expanded metal grill protection.. so check water pump and fan.. proof meter might be a cable, the meter itself or the drive int he pump head. pull the cable from the pump head.. if the pump head has a lil turning bit when running.. then figure on a a cable or meter or both ( 65$ ).. no biggie )

dash is shot, ut then.. I expect some rust on an old machine. if you needed new dash metal.. you can find it.. probably 25-50$ max.. most of us collectors have odds n bits of tins laying around. someone is boud to have one if you intende don restoringit.. otherwise.. for just mowing.. it will run :)

I assume front end is showing kilter due to being parked on a grade.

about the only thing I'd do once purchased is do a fluid change on her ( engine, oil filter, air filter sump, trans fluid, hyd fluid and diffy oil, and then rebuild that steering and go..

I bought one that.. well.. looked just like that a few months ago. had to rebuild the steering box too.. dash had less rust... but I paid a hundred more.. so.. sounds about right.. :)

make sure she has no water in the oil or oil in the water.. if she starts and runs good, have fun.

soundguy
 
   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #8  
It has a 12 volt conversion which is a good thing. I am not a fan of that exhaust exiting like it does.

One thing I would check is the 3 point lift. Have 2 big 200# plus guys stand on each lift arm and operate it. If it can not lift them you will need to do some R&R on it. Just got done doing it on a 961. Not a hard job but does take some time and $15 in parts and gaskets.

I would take $2000 and offer him $1800. Show up with cash money and a trailer. If he does not take the $1800 tell him thanks and leave. Let him know you are going to look at other tractors. Make sure he has your cell phone number. 9 times out of 10 he will call you back before you get 5 miles down the road. Before you turn around make sure you agree on a price. If he says he can not do the $1800 tell him you will meet him in the middle at $2000 and be done with it.

Chris
 
   / 1962 Ford 2000 Produced in 1963? #9  
good points. I've also shown up with cash and a trailer to drive the point home.

seperate your money between your pockets.. I do this at gun shows too.

nothing like telling a guy you got 250$ with ya after beating him down 50$ on a gun and then whipping out all 300 and waving in his face. :)

ditto on the 3pt. as said.. it's not a hard job.. usually a leaky piston oring and washer.. just grunt work and a 154 GASKET AND ORING KIT WITH ABOUT 100 ORINGS IN IT.. :)

soundguy
 
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Thank you guys.

The owner told me he rejected a $2,000 offer from a guy who had cash in hand. Said he wouldn't take any less than $2,200.

I would agree that at that price it is certainly no bargain.

I've been looking hard for 6-8 weeks now for tractors in that price range and they are hard to find.

I noticed that the lift had a very minor vibration in it as he lifted it up.

Is that normal?

The year model isn't that critical at this point but I thought that if it was a 1962 that it might be worth a little bit more down the road being a 1st year model series.

The owner doesn't know what year it is. When I first called him he said he thought it was from the 60's.

Thank You,

Rod Jordan
Pamlico Lawn Care, LLC
Oriental, NC
 
 
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