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    Hi everyone. I am at that point where I need a tractor. The question is what type. Here are my needs for a tractor:

    -I own 800 acres in NW Ontario with a mixture of fields, bush and trails. All trails have been cut by hand and now maintained with a 44" swisher and my chain saw and shovel when needed. I could use some culverts here and there and some smoothing. I also have other trails planned.

    -I have some fields, they range from 2-4 acres up to 20 acres in size. Some are worked up now by neighbors and some are just in hay. I also have some areas in the 1-2 acres range cleared but not worked up yet, these will have rocks in them that need to be picked out.

    -Would like to work up lands and some areas that have grown up a bit as well. I have mostly clay based soils.

    -I have been looking at tractors in the 40-50 HP range but was wondering if these chinese tractors are any good. Would the 30 HP DF304G2 Tractor with Front End Loader satisfy my needs? Seems like a decent little tractor. Should I buy a used tractor? I don't want to spend a fortune but I also don't want to have to take it in for maintenance all the time either.

    What do you think I need?

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    Stay away from any chinese made tractor for now. Their reliability has not been proven and even here on TBN engine failures are reported at less than 800 hours on brand new ones. No way would I even think of buying used.
    If you want used recently built, stick with the Japanese brands like kubota and Yanmar.
    50Hp is about the right size for your needs as you listed them. I have a grey market Yanmar 4220D that has been a pretty good tractor. Although I wouldnt recommend the Vietnam rebuilds, mine was pretty good once I got all the rice field clay flushed out of the hydraulic reservoir. I think you can get some fairly recent used Kubotas for about the same price as the VN rebuilds though. Paint may not look as good but you could repaint it yourself which is about all those "rebuilds" are anyway along with maybe an oil change.
    2010 LS P-7010C 20F/20R gear tractor & FEL, 2009 Kubota B 26 TLB, RTV 900 Kubota,17 foot Lund boat with 70HP motor, 2012-20 ft 12k GVW trailer, 2011- 52" Craftsman ZTR mower, 2013 Ferris Zero Turn, 3 weed whackers, pressure washer, leaf blowers, 7 foot bush hog, 8 foot landscape rake , 8 foot 3 PH disc, 2 row cultivator, 350 amp Miller AC/DC welding machine and all the tools needed to keep them all repaired and running.

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    Default Re: Advice on tractor purchase.

    Like said, stay away from China made!

    I have 400 acres and our two Kubotas do us fine. Love the L3800!
    Last edited by Bluegill2; 05-30-2012 at 11:06 AM.
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    Default Re: Advice on tractor purchase.

    I thought I would get more feedback than this. Anyone like hunting? Here is a link to my tractor discussion I started today on my own forum.

    http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Hunti...howtopic=33583

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    sounds like mor ethan 1 machine is needed.

    perhaps something large in the 50-90hp ange for big implements and mowers, and something in the 30hp range with a laoder for utility work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade7 View Post
    I thought I would get more feedback than this. Anyone like hunting? Here is a link to my tractor discussion I started today on my own forum.

    Ontario Trophy Bucks forum -> Looking around for tractor
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegill2 View Post
    Like said, stay away from China made!

    I have 400 acres and our two Kubotas do us fine. Love the L3800!
    All ya need right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade7 View Post
    I thought I would get more feedback than this. Anyone like hunting? Here is a link to my tractor discussion I started today on my own forum.

    Ontario Trophy Bucks forum -> Looking around for tractor
    Some may feel the way I do in that I can in no way give useful advice given your parameters.

    I personally would not even consider using only one tractor and anything I believe will be satisfactory is going to cost quite a bit even if you buy used.

    My recommendation would be along the lines of Soundguy's. We use an M8540 and L5030 on much less acreage. In the past it was a Massey Ferguson 375 and Case CX80.
    Thread on helpful tractor abbreviations: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/o...-acronyms.html

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    What brands have dealers within a reasonable distance? Or what brands does your local tractor repair guy like to deal with?
    I flip-flopped between my Kioti sized tractors and 60-70hp 8000lb+ utility tractors which I think you could probably use.
    Thing is for $22-23k you get a new DK40 with an HST, new tires, etc.... Or a 5000+hr JD utility tractor with some sort of shuttle shift, or a 3000-4000hr Agco with bald tires.
    I had no tractor ownership experience so I went with new and hopefully no expensive repair bills for 10-20 years... Also the HST is nice for loader work or in tight spots.
    If your local guy is a Zetor wizz(or some other "off-brand") then you might want to ignore what most people here say if you trust he can set you up with a decent tractor. I thought about a Zetor 5245 for $8k that seemed to be in good running shape but my nearest Zetor repair guy was 1.5hrs away.
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    Good advice and ideas. OK. What I will do is look at some of my local dealers and chat with them and see what they have to offer in my area. I live close to the border so I was thinking about possibly buying in northern Minnesota as well. I would beat the crap out of this tractor I am sure. I will be doing the plow, disc harrow thing in some areas. I will also be interested in digging culverts and smoothing out my quad trails which go through bush, rocks and varied terrain. I would also have regular yard duties and snow removal etc. I will report back on the various tractors and options me and my wife look at. I have seen plenty of used tractors of course but I need to look at as many as I can in person to make a more informed decision. I suppose I would be willing to spend more for decent quality. Thanks guys.

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    why don't you look for a used jd 5510 or 20? ideally with a power reverser ,cast rear wheels,mfwd, loader and wheel weights.it is a very useful size but large enough to pull a 15 ft hog.you can add a backhoe when necessary.it is also backed by deere.it should be capable of handling your tractor jobs.

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