Just an observation....probably one of those "Duh" situations.
I've been looking on craiglist for a long while at smaller tractors to use to mow, roto till, etc. I'm no farmer. I've got the use of a Massey 231 but its not mine and I've been looking at Massey 135s, Ford 8Ns, etc, so I'd have something that if I screwed it up I wouldn't feel quite so bad. I will be buying something older that has lots of parts available. I really like the looks of a clean 135 Massey and similar-shaped Masseys.
I'm not quick to buy anything, and I've seen a lot of tractors come and go, and I search far and wide, so I 've seen a lot on the net. What strikes me is that the difference in price between a "restored" tractor and one that has not been "restored" is not that much when you consider the time and effort that goes into repairs. I realize its hard to quantify a restoration, and I use "restored" in quotes because I know what "restored" means leaves a lot to be defined. To one guy it means a cheap paint job and a tune up and to another it means a whole lot more. And its not just a restoration issue, some tractors are in their original condition but have been well kept and maintained and others look like they are rolled on a regular basis.
I think I am about ready to conclude that while I like to tinker and don't mind learning (I'm getting ready to do an in-frame rebuild on the 231) I think I'd be much ahead to spend a couple thousand dollars more for a nice tractor or one that has had some "rebuilding" done to it rather than one that has not. For example, I can buy Ford 8Ns all day for $2500-3000 or less that are in decent shape. But when you get around $4000 I can get one that looks like it just came off the showroom floor. The Massey 135, which is what I really want, is similar. The 135's sell for about $3500-4000 but for $5500 I can get one that has been "rebuilt" and looks like its ready to put in some long hours....
It reminds me of buying my first house. I looked at 20 homes in the same general area, and they all were built at about the same time, had the same layout, same size, etc. and the ones that were fixed up nice weren't selling for much more than the ones that needed everything redone.
I've been looking on craiglist for a long while at smaller tractors to use to mow, roto till, etc. I'm no farmer. I've got the use of a Massey 231 but its not mine and I've been looking at Massey 135s, Ford 8Ns, etc, so I'd have something that if I screwed it up I wouldn't feel quite so bad. I will be buying something older that has lots of parts available. I really like the looks of a clean 135 Massey and similar-shaped Masseys.
I'm not quick to buy anything, and I've seen a lot of tractors come and go, and I search far and wide, so I 've seen a lot on the net. What strikes me is that the difference in price between a "restored" tractor and one that has not been "restored" is not that much when you consider the time and effort that goes into repairs. I realize its hard to quantify a restoration, and I use "restored" in quotes because I know what "restored" means leaves a lot to be defined. To one guy it means a cheap paint job and a tune up and to another it means a whole lot more. And its not just a restoration issue, some tractors are in their original condition but have been well kept and maintained and others look like they are rolled on a regular basis.
I think I am about ready to conclude that while I like to tinker and don't mind learning (I'm getting ready to do an in-frame rebuild on the 231) I think I'd be much ahead to spend a couple thousand dollars more for a nice tractor or one that has had some "rebuilding" done to it rather than one that has not. For example, I can buy Ford 8Ns all day for $2500-3000 or less that are in decent shape. But when you get around $4000 I can get one that looks like it just came off the showroom floor. The Massey 135, which is what I really want, is similar. The 135's sell for about $3500-4000 but for $5500 I can get one that has been "rebuilt" and looks like its ready to put in some long hours....
It reminds me of buying my first house. I looked at 20 homes in the same general area, and they all were built at about the same time, had the same layout, same size, etc. and the ones that were fixed up nice weren't selling for much more than the ones that needed everything redone.