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  1. #11
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    30hp fumetsu 4wd

    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    this tractor has only 40.5 hours on it
    the suppliers mechanic stated=this batch had faulty clutches
    I have owned plenty of tractors,and clutches are not something
    that lets go this soon.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Yes the Fumetsu is just another rebadged Luzhong. Sold by a few dealers in Australia under a number of different names. Having been there and done that I would just say never again.

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Quote Originally Posted by andre12a View Post
    Hi Geoff
    I am new to this site and this is my first post, but I thought I might be able to help with this one. I have five acres at Mt Marshall which is in your area. I just bought a Foton 254 and had it delivered last week. So far I have only spent five hours on it slashing long grass. I spent a lot of time researching tractors before making my decision. I went to Ag shows, tractor outlets and spent hours on the internet. I was very tempted by the Femutsu (also sold as Agrison), mainly due to its price. Why i chose the Foton was because it kept coming up with good reviews and the Femutsu didn't. Okay, there might have been few problems, but compared to stories other Chinese tractor owners had to tell, they all seem pretty minor.

    To say that all Chinese tractors come out of the same factory, or that they are all the same is incorrect. Some research on the internet will show you that Chinese tractors vary a great deal. The Foton has been developed over quite a while for the Western market. It is probably the best finished of all the Chinese tractors. Apart from that, it now has the reliability for its distributors to provide a 3 year warranty.

    After the first day of using my new tractor, the FEL control developed a major hydraulic fluid leak. Also, from the original operation, the PTO had no control when lowering, that is, it just dropped. I contacted National Machinery Traders and they had a service mechanic out to it yesterday (Sunday). Just before he arrived, I discovered that the coolant level in the radiator was exceptionally low. Before even starting work on the tractor the service mechanic, Matt, spent quite some time answering all the questions I had about operation of various aspects of the tractor. He replaced the FEL control unit with another new one, adjusted the oil flow for more control on lower for the PTO, and found and fixed the coolant leak. All this is part of the 12mth parts and labour ON SITE warranty that National Machinery Traders offer (this is followed by another two years of warranty in which they will replace any faulty part but not include the labour). Matt is an independent contractor who specialises in Chinese tractors. He was interesting to talk to and his comments left me feeling very confident that I had made the right choice with the Foton and with buying it where I did. National Machinery Traders do a Dyno on the engine with the original Chinese lubricants still in it and then replace all tractor fluids with Australian standard oils.

    Admittedly, I am only a newby in this area, but from my experience, to answer your question, I would go for the Foton and get it from a reputable dealer with a sound warranty and back up service.

    Peter
    I agree with you Peter. Bought the 40HP from the same company. Not had a problem with almost a years ownership. Great dealer with a great attitude to their customers...Happy tractoring

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Buying a tractor with a parts only warranty is like buying a hand grenade with the pin pulled...things can go bang very quickly. Unscrupulous dealers can and will deliver a lemon to your place and just walk away from it. You need at least 12 months FREE ONSITE parts and labour warranty preferably with a parts warranty extension after that.

  5. #15
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    Agrison 50HP Turbo

    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    I would agree that 40 hours is quite young for a tractor to blow a clutch, but at the same time it comes down to your style of driving. Riding the clutch for even 5 or 10 hours will cause serious damage, and failing to adjust your clutch to manufacturer specs will also cause damage. I am always careful of the clutch because I know if I ride the clutch its going to cost me at least 2k.
    Quote Originally Posted by fumetsu View Post
    this tractor has only 40.5 hours on it
    the suppliers mechanic stated=this batch had faulty clutches
    I have owned plenty of tractors,and clutches are not something
    that lets go this soon.

  6. #16
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    Yanmar ym1510d Kioti ds3510

    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Just to finish thread I ended up buying a Kioti DS3510. Very happy so far, haven't worked it hard yet, in a couple of weeks, but have done 14hrs playing/slashing/digging. Does everything easy but needs a bit more weight on the back, I'm using a 250kg box blade.
    Geoff

  7. #17
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    For extra weight at the back, ask the dealer if you can buy wheel weights, put water in them at home too, you could even extend the rear wheel base ...that usually helps with stability.... especially if you have a hilly property
    Quote Originally Posted by 13gef13 View Post
    Just to finish thread I ended up buying a Kioti DS3510. Very happy so far, haven't worked it hard yet, in a couple of weeks, but have done 14hrs playing/slashing/digging. Does everything easy but needs a bit more weight on the back, I'm using a 250kg box blade.
    Geoff

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesandMegan View Post
    For extra weight at the back, ask the dealer if you can buy wheel weights, put water in them at home too, you could even extend the rear wheel base ...that usually helps with stability.... especially if you have a hilly property
    Unfortunately I have to trailer it to the property as anything left there goes walkabout. I had to get the trailer upgraded already and am up to the max tow weight of the ute. This is the best compromise I could come up with, I have a 5ft slasher I could use but it overhangs too far and the gentlemen in blue have already given me a good go over its not worth the risk.
    Thanks for the suggestions, Geoff

  9. #19
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    Terracyclone (Luzhong TC254)

    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Quote Originally Posted by zonta223 View Post
    Yes the Fumetsu is just another rebadged Luzhong. Sold by a few dealers in Australia under a number of different names. Having been there and done that I would just say never again.
    I stumbled across a promotional video for a Fumetsu tractor and was amazed at how similar it was to my "rebadged Luzhong" tractor (not knowing at the time that Fumetsu was manufactured by Luzhong). What's interesting is at the end of the video the narrator states "Fumetsu is Japanese for indestructible," follow by some unintelligible statement. Although not explicitly stating the tractor is made in Japan, it seems to me that was meant to be the implication. See the video here.

    By the way, I've had my Luzhong for several years now, and I've been extremely happy with it. I've worked it hard including pulling out stumps larger than I should have with this size tractor. It's had no major mechanical issues so far, only minor issues that I easily repaired.
    Jack of all trades, master of none (but working on it)

  10. #20
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    Default Re: Fumetsu 30HP 4wd, are they any good

    Quote Originally Posted by len10 View Post
    I stumbled across a promotional video for a Fumetsu tractor and was amazed at how similar it was to my "rebadged Luzhong" tractor (not knowing at the time that Fumetsu was manufactured by Luzhong). What's interesting is at the end of the video the narrator states "Fumetsu is Japanese for indestructible," follow by some unintelligible statement. Although not explicitly stating the tractor is made in Japan, it seems to me that was meant to be the implication. See the video here.


    By the way, I've had my Luzhong for several years now, and I've been extremely happy with it. I've worked it hard including pulling out stumps larger than I should have with this size tractor. It's had no major mechanical issues so far, only minor issues that I easily repaired.
    The company who does Fumetsu in Australia has even changed its name to "Discount Tractors" tractors I believe. They are one of the many retailers who offer "parts Only" warranty. Its like buying a hand grenede with the pin pulled.......sooner or later things tend to go Bang in a big way.

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