CliffordK
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- Mar 8, 2013
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- Location
- Eugene, Oregon
- Tractor
- Toro D200, Ford 1715, International 884,
I'm been around haying for most of my life, but just decided to invest in some equipment.
Concentrating on "square" bales, spring grass. I'll try go get a few small plots to mow. Hopefully building up to around 100 to 200 acres in smaller plots. Much of it will be flat, but I may have some hills.
I found an older Kuhn GMD77, 7 disk mower.
And, it is pretty obvious that my tractor at 20 HP just won't cut it.
According to the Kuhn website, the GMD77 (HD), mine isn't HD, requires 50 HP minimum.
I thought the guy I bought it from said he was running it at 1000 RPM, although everything I see lists 540 RPM for the mower.
I'd like the flexibility of a 2 speed PTO. That is one thing I don't like about tilling with my Ford 1715. It seems like I have to run it at full throttle, low gear to do much.
So, I'm hunting for a good used tractor (Eugene, Oregon).
I'm seeing a few Internataional/Farmall tractors from the 70's and 80's for sale. At this point, I'd rather an "open" tractor rather than a cab. I may change my mind later.
A few that I've noticed.
IH Hydro 84.
58 HP PTO.
540 PTO
Hydro Transmission.
$6500 & $5000
There are two of them for sale locally. One "Running" for $6500, no bucket. One that the seller said he started to rebuild the engine, and all that is left is replacing the injectors, but apparently has been sitting outside mostly done (covered) throughout the winter. This one has a bucket. Asking $5000 Doesn't seem very negotiable.
IH 884 4x4
72 HP PTO.
540/1000 PTO
$7500
Apparently the front differential is not working, cause is not specified. Rear works. It would be a good project to tear apart later, but should be functional enough for now. Has bucket.
IH 1026
Hydro
112 HP PTO
540/1000 PTO
$12000
This one is big, and quite a ways away, so getting it home might be a problem, and a little above the upper end of what I was hoping to fork out.
MASSEY FERGUSON 194F 4x4
75 HP (Engine)
540 PTO
$7850
I've never driven a large tractor (bigger than a lawn mower) with a Hydro transmission, but it seems like it woudl be a good idea for mowing and baling.
I'm thinking about offering the $5K for the Hydro 84 with the stipulation that I can buy injectors, or rebuild the ones with it, but it must drive off the property.
I suppose my questions:
For haying,
Hydro vs Not Hydro? Torque Amplifier?
HP? As mentioned my mower requires a minimum of 50 HP or so. Most balers seem to be around 30-40 HP. So, is 50-60 PTO HP a good target? 60-70 PTO HP? more?
I realize that I do not need a bucket for hay, but they are awfully handy.
Concentrating on "square" bales, spring grass. I'll try go get a few small plots to mow. Hopefully building up to around 100 to 200 acres in smaller plots. Much of it will be flat, but I may have some hills.
I found an older Kuhn GMD77, 7 disk mower.
And, it is pretty obvious that my tractor at 20 HP just won't cut it.
According to the Kuhn website, the GMD77 (HD), mine isn't HD, requires 50 HP minimum.
I thought the guy I bought it from said he was running it at 1000 RPM, although everything I see lists 540 RPM for the mower.
I'd like the flexibility of a 2 speed PTO. That is one thing I don't like about tilling with my Ford 1715. It seems like I have to run it at full throttle, low gear to do much.
So, I'm hunting for a good used tractor (Eugene, Oregon).
I'm seeing a few Internataional/Farmall tractors from the 70's and 80's for sale. At this point, I'd rather an "open" tractor rather than a cab. I may change my mind later.
A few that I've noticed.
IH Hydro 84.
58 HP PTO.
540 PTO
Hydro Transmission.
$6500 & $5000
There are two of them for sale locally. One "Running" for $6500, no bucket. One that the seller said he started to rebuild the engine, and all that is left is replacing the injectors, but apparently has been sitting outside mostly done (covered) throughout the winter. This one has a bucket. Asking $5000 Doesn't seem very negotiable.
IH 884 4x4
72 HP PTO.
540/1000 PTO
$7500
Apparently the front differential is not working, cause is not specified. Rear works. It would be a good project to tear apart later, but should be functional enough for now. Has bucket.
IH 1026
Hydro
112 HP PTO
540/1000 PTO
$12000
This one is big, and quite a ways away, so getting it home might be a problem, and a little above the upper end of what I was hoping to fork out.
MASSEY FERGUSON 194F 4x4
75 HP (Engine)
540 PTO
$7850
I've never driven a large tractor (bigger than a lawn mower) with a Hydro transmission, but it seems like it woudl be a good idea for mowing and baling.
I'm thinking about offering the $5K for the Hydro 84 with the stipulation that I can buy injectors, or rebuild the ones with it, but it must drive off the property.
I suppose my questions:
For haying,
Hydro vs Not Hydro? Torque Amplifier?
HP? As mentioned my mower requires a minimum of 50 HP or so. Most balers seem to be around 30-40 HP. So, is 50-60 PTO HP a good target? 60-70 PTO HP? more?
I realize that I do not need a bucket for hay, but they are awfully handy.