murphy1244
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What is on the property now? That might open up some answers.
I mentioned the ZTR to manage the trees, fence edges, and buildings with less clumsiness than the tractor. Plus I get to skip rearranging the attachments for mowing.
I wasn't entirely clear in my first post - I would like to handle large square bales but it won't make sense if it adds $10k to the equipment investment. $10k buys a lot of small bales, or at least buys me a year to consider adding a skidsteer instead. This is why I was trying to understand the requirements for lifting.
Hello everyone, my first post here.
I'm shopping for a tractor / equipment to handle a 15 acre horse property. I have attached an aerial of the plot with the areas currently pasture fenced (blue) and future pastures (light blue). I expect to do these chores with the following order of time spent:
1) Mowing perimeters and yards (weekly), 5 acres total.
2) Mowing pastures (monthly), 5 acres total.
3) Dragging indoor and outdoor riding areas.
4) Moving manure.
5) Moving hay bales and other consumables from storage building to barn.
6) Plowing driveway in winter. We get some winter weather here in PA but most years the largest snowstorm leaves less than a foot. Snow is wet and heavy as often as it is powdery.
7) Spraying the pastures, aerating, and fertilizing activities maybe.
(Fence posts will be driven professionally, excavations will be subbed, and I have no intent to harvest wood in the wooded section)
This is where you come in. I have no experience with this stuff except for a couple of times dragging a riding arena using someone else's rig. I'm a mechanical engineer so while I pick up this stuff quickly, I don't know things I've never been exposed to. If things go well I'll need a tractor by mid-May so I'm using the meantime to do my homework. My current lawn equipment boils down to a small push mower and a light duty weed-eater, ha. I foresee buying at least a 20hp 4WD compact tractor with quick attach loader.
Major questions:
1) Would you try and mow this property using a tractor implement, or a commercial (zero-turn style) mower? Two clarifications here: the existing turf is not very bumpy and I'm willing to aerate and roll it annually to maintain that, and I believe in keeping pasture grass no higher than 6-7" and mowing down to 4-5". So the question is whether I should consider a separate mower.
2) What kind of tires make the most sense if the ground is generally smooth, no rocks, and areas of the turf can be wet at times?
3) If we wanted to buy and handle large square hay bales, how would I decide if a tractor that is safe to move and stack them? Large squares run 800lb on average, and for horse feeding I really don't expect to buy oversized and heavy bales.
4) Following question 3, if I get a bale spear for the FEL, is the 500mm/full height lift capacity (say, 1100# for a Boomer 30) something that won't tip over the tractor?
Looking forward to your thoughts.
Dave
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5 acres of yard, 5 acres of pasture. Pastures are not rough and we plan to build some sacrifice areas so they don't destroy the turf when it's fragile.
If I were to do the mowing with the tractor I'd expect to have a quick attach loader and mow without it.
Before we get into the question of what tractor will handle an 800lb square bale, are you saying that the lift rating at full height is not the limiting factor? If that's the case, what is the limiting factor?
As for the 40+ hp tractor and ZTR option, that's not a financial possibility. My budget is 20k, 25k tops, and I was not really expecting to buy new.
I recently bought an Empyre Indoor wood furnace. It was delivered to the house on a box truck with full lift gate. The driver was alone and was told "the owner has a tractor with forks". It weighs 945lb. according to the brochure. It was palleted and wrapped. I had a Kioti CK25 with KL130 loader, and as was previously mentioned, has a limit of 1,100 lbs +/-.
I got the forks (clamp ons) under it, and nothing (obviously) but I was able to tip it forward, put a 6" block at the back of the bucket, then tip back level. Now I'm 6" off the ground. I slowly backed up to the woodshed and placed the pallet inside on the floor. Not good for the tractor or the nerves... Get a little larger, and if neccesary, a little older machine (to stay in budget) and be done with it. If you max out the loader, every time you use it, your gonna break something. My :2cents: worth.
A zero-turn will absolutely destroy a tractor if you have a lot of mowing around obstacles and near buildings or fences. When you have a 3000-5000 lb tractor 6" off a fence line to mow near it, it is very easy to mess up and damage the fence. Likewise if you are near a building. A zero turn will do that all day, and literally run rings around the tractor if there are garden beds, trees, etc... A good quality riding mower may also do the trick, but with the amount of mowing you're going to be doing, I would be seriously considering the longevity and reliability of a used commercial-grade ZTR..................................