I would think that if you can get the JD110 for $20-25K it would be a bargain if it is in good shape which it should be with only 800 hours
I do think a person needs to use the creep function to understand the benefits. For instance if I am drilling post holes with the auger on the rear I can not use the hoe to reposition. While it doesn't make a small tlb an excavator it does make repositioning the machine a lot easier without making divots in the ground every time you move the machine.
I would also say that there is a big difference in width between the fender wells on a 110 and 410 so you can swivel the seat to the front position on the 410. On the 110 you have to get up flip the seat over and climb to the front, without the creep to reposition to alleviate that would be more trouble. Any decent backhoe operator can use the hoe to move the tractor around and does so quite often whether it is a 110 or full sized 410. Trust me on this the creep to reposition feature is a real plus on the small backhoes.
I worked a 410 for a couple of weeks a year or so ago. Had a hydraulic thumb, too! :thumbsup: It's quite a bit more machine than my 110... And, the work space on the deck of that tractor makes swiveling the seat around possible - kinda like sittin' atop an aircraft carrier versus a PT boat!
Nonetheless, I use that creep feature to roll across the work areas @ 4-5mph! You don't have to "creep" at all! Crank the throttle up and push that lever all the way over - it'll move as fast or faster than you might want to go!
I paid just over $40K for my 110 with ALL of the options in 2008. It was expensive; but not out of line with either the L45-48 and certainly not when compared to the M59! I looked and looked at the Kubota's...
The demise of the 110 (and to the decline in sales for all TLB's) has been the due to the rise in popularity of the SS/mini-X combo's! The skid steer is a superior loader platform and the small excavator's are a significantly better digging platform! Simple enough - and the purchase cost is not so far out of reach that guys won't buy the package!
I think the demise of the 110 is lack of work on construction sites. I looked real hard at a Cat 902 wheel loader paired with a 304.5 mini ex and decided that for small jobs it was too much trouble to move two machines in and out.
Helped out a friend this morning and dug with his 426 Cat backhoe while he hammered thru rock with his 420. That was some tough digging. Couldn't have done it without the hammer.
While I was disappointed when JD discontinued the 110 TLB, I am not going to willingly let my machine go. Someone is going to have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers.
Just the right size for me, and tough as nails.
Things slowed down up here - but, we've never, ever had the same level of decline that the rest of the country (Arizona, Florida..) experienced. Foreclosures were barely outside the normal, average for the state.
Currently, Anchorage is in the midst of a rental and new construction CRISIS! Projected to be that way for the next decade. Discussions about available raw land vs multi-story dwelling's, etc.
(You ever consider commuting...) Guys fly all over the world going and coming from their shift's in the "oil patch" up here!
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T Dew based on owning a very worn 1983 310B backhoe unless at 800 hours a JD 110 was abused it should functionally be new like and go until at least 2050. They are not cheap but I think would be light years ahead of some options. When clearing ground I would prefer our 310 series but the sucker is big in a yard and at 12.5K needs more than a single axle trailer and 1/2 ton truck. :)
I wound up with the 310 by accident. Was just looking for a FEL to mount on the MF 265 and that was going to cost me $6K+ but because in that size the used stuff was junk plus I did not want to screw up a naked tractor with a FEL that would be in my way when bush hogging, etc. While very worn the 310 was only $7200 yet starts, runs and works hard after several hundred hours of hard and abusive (using as a dozer clearing ground. building wrecking, etc) work with only replacing some hoses and the starter.
Add-on backhoes that do not use the OEM tractor seat would not work so well for me due to physical limitations. I think a BH one size too big is safer than the other way around.
Bottom line there is NO one machine that is good for all the jobs that can come up around a farm.
After adding the thumb it became clear the digging depth specs are quite important because that determines REACH. :)
You are so right about one machine will not cover all the jobs on a farm. My friends Cat 426 is three times the weight of my 110 and has twice the reach too. I'm guessing his hoe is about 25,000 lbs. I just don't want one that I need a lowboy and large truck to transport.
I really need to just have a local shop finish welding it for me. All I need is time. Story of my life.