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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    You need a bigger tractor or a marginal one with extra rear ballast. Anything less and you might find yourself lying on your side some day.
    We have too much gun control.
    What we need is more idiot control.

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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbull338 View Post
    a mx5100 HST 4x4 with LA844 loader is what you need.it will lift the bales off of a trailer with a shredder or other heavy weight on the rear.im assumming youll maining be lifting 4 by 5s an 4 by 6s.wich itll do with ease.itll also lift the 5 by 6s if they arnt to heavy.i traded the above tractor for the 7040 because it was really loaded pulling the hay hauler with 4 5 by 6 an 1 5 by 6 on the loader.
    I have the same loader, and I can't see any possible way that I could ever be able to lift a 2k lb roundbale with my tractor, even with my rears filled with 1100lbs of fluid, and a 1400lb stumpgrinder on the back. I just don't see how my loader could lift that much weight. There is no way an MX5100 with a 5' box blade on the back, can lift 2k lbs.
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    Veteran Member Piston's Avatar
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    Can you guys with the DK40 lift 2k lbs with only a small implement on the back? That is pretty impressive, I know my little Bota couldn't do that.
    Kubota L4610 and John Deere 410 - WR Long 64" Grapple (best attachment ever!) QA front forks, rear forks, Brown 472 HD Rotary Mower, Land Pride RBT4096 hydro blade, Woods 7200 Power Rake, homemade 3 pt log splitter, Land Pride rake/blade combo, Land Pride HRL 3578 box blade (Hydro scarifiers), Shaver SC50 3 pt. Stumpgrinder, FitRiteHydraulics TnT, 6" Vermeer PTO Chipper (Hydro feed), Disc Plow, Ratchet Rake, LP HD25 Hydraulic PHD, Woodmizer LT15 portable sawmill
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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    I can do it with my Wallenstein on the back
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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by perdurabo View Post
    The point is that when I'm out of hay I won't have a bale to use as a counterweight on the rear (chicken and egg problem), plus if I have my shredder attached I don't want to have to take it off, put the rear bale forks on, then when I'm done spend another half hour fighting with the shredder to get it back on. Although, that might be less of an issue with a newer tractor that has telescoping or hydraulic 3pt stabilizer arms. I want to be able to lift a full size (~2000lb) bale off of a trailer with the FEL with only the weight of my 5' box blade or 5' Rhino shredder on the rear as counterbalance.
    I burn wood pellets.Each skid weighs 2,000 lbs.My rear tires on my Kioti DK40 HST cab model are loaded with rimguard.I still need a 1,000 lbs rear ballest box as a counter weight to unload.My front pallet forks weigh about 400lbs.also.coobie
    Kioti DK40se hst cab with KL401 loader,Kubota RTV 900,John deere X740,Kioti 73 inch tiller.Ingersoll 4020 3pt,troy bilt tiller,Billy goat brush cutter.

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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    What tractor would give me the best bang for the buck
    Last January I bought an M4700 (no HST), 4WD w/FEL and canopy in pretty fair condition that will lift 2000 lbs on the FEL and 4000 lbs on the 3pt, and spent $11,500. I consider that a lot of bang for the buck.

    Similar tractors on https://www.tractorhouse.com/list/li...t&units=metric have asking prices around $16,000. The list price on a comparably configured MX4700 is about $30K, probably about $27K out the door.

    So a lot depends on what you care to give up to get a bigger bang. Often if you go used and can "wait for the deal" you can get a lot bigger bang.

    You should make up a list of the major manufacturers and the tractors in their line that will meet your minimum spec. Search Tractorhouse, Barlow's, Messicks, Craigs List and auctions for at least a few weeks.

    Try looking on Tractorhouse for tractors w/ 4WD, FEL, 40-99HP and a major mfg for $11,500 or less. There aren't a lot.

    I've got one.
    Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL-8x6sam_0797.jpg
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    It sounds to me like your right on the edge of utility sized tractor territory. You could get everything you want, except the HST. I think you'll have to compromise somewhere, whether it be giving up HST (which I understand why you wouldn't want to do) or maybe buying a heavier duty implement for rear weight. I don't know if you can do that with a 5' shredder on the back. Maybe you could get a quick hitch with the new tractor and it wouldn't be as much trouble to change implements?

    I think you would find it a lot easier to change implements with the telescoping rear links, so perhaps that could solve a lot of the problems too. Regardless, I would stay away from the Kubota and go with only the heaviest tractors with highest lift capacity like your looking for.
    I think your looking for 40hp, is that PTO? I'm not sure the DK40 has 40PTO hp? You may want to look at the DK50, that sounds like a great tractor as well.
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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    now i would not try taking a 2nd bale off the top of another balewith the mx5100.but id unload a single stacked trailer with it with a bale on the rear.

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    I have a L5740. It will lift our 4 x 6 and 5 x 5 round bales, which weigh between 1200 and 1500 pounds, okay with the loader but can't lift 2,000 pounds centered 2 feet in front of the skid steer mounting plate on the loader so that pretty much puts the Grand L Kubotas out of the picture before even thinking about rear weight. We get seed wheat in 1 ton totes plus or minus 20 pounds because they are weighed and tagged before we get them. The L5740 will strain its guts out to get enough load off so I can skid them along the ground.
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    Default Re: Smallest compact tractor for lifting full size round bales with FEL

    Quote Originally Posted by MHarryE View Post
    I have a L5740. It will lift our 4 x 6 and 5 x 5 round bales, which weigh between 1200 and 1500 pounds, okay with the loader but can't lift 2,000 pounds centered 2 feet in front of the skid steer mounting plate on the loader so that pretty much puts the Grand L Kubotas out of the picture before even thinking about rear weight. We get seed wheat in 1 ton totes plus or minus 20 pounds because they are weighed and tagged before we get them. The L5740 will strain its guts out to get enough load off so I can skid them along the ground.
    For reference, this is the largest loader that kubota offers in any tractor available with HST. I'd say Kubota could be scratched off your list.
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