Thanks for all the replies I will look more at the kioti, I guess just heard some negatives about kioti, but it seems there are a strong tactor and company. I guess I got ahead of myself and thought my b7500 was sold, but Hopefully she goes soon. I just talked to local kioti dealer and he says big dealer show this coming week so call him after 10/1 and see what the news is because they are replacing the ck20 with a newbie, so prices may get even better.
I will be looking at a 60" rear finish mower, is the kioti a good brand and do they make in house. Also what are some other good mower and what are they ones to stay away from.
Thanks again