APPLES to APPLES - comparisons between Cab HST models around 50 HP (SPREADSHEET)

[Poopdeck Pappy]

. . . However, he gets around it by installing a quick-hitch on every 5010 he sells, which he says fixes the problem most of the time. I've never used a QH before, so I can't comment on one. I think that most, but not all, implements are compatible right?

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Most NEW implements these days are QH compatible, but a lot of older ones are not. If possible, you might want to see if your Mahindra dealer would loan you one of those quick hitches for a day so you could see which ones of your implements it will work with.

On the ones that are not QH compatible, a lot of people modify them to make them work. My old Gannon box blade doesn't have quite enough clearance to let the top hook fit, so I need to fix that.

 

[eagle107]

Eagle ... the Boomer 3045 & 3050 are NOT hydrostat. They are CVT. Not only that, their loader specs are pathetically low (250TL) compared to the rest of the group. Those reasons are why they are NOT included in this list. As for the other specs. I referenced and cross-referenced different information to get the proper (I believe) specs on the above tractors. Unfortunately, their own websites are often not the best places to get the info, because some are not done very well. The redesigned LS website has mistakes all over the place (they just re-did that site a couple months ago) ... and the TYM site is easily the worst of the bunch. I also used product brochures, dealer literature, other internet searches, etc etc etc ... I'm not going to make a glossary of all of the sources, don't have the time Thanks for posting the link to the JD loader manual.

Yes, you are right about the Boomer being a CVT, sorry about. Good luck with your information gathering.

 

[TSO]

Fyi, just confirmed it with the TYM dealer ... the 3pt lift is that 2945 @ 24" ... and something like 3314 @ ball ends. Apparently the TYM website and marketing division is currently being revamped and dealers are hoping for a new website soon.

 

[GManBart]

Fyi, just confirmed it with the TYM dealer ... the 3pt lift is that 2945 @ 24" ... and something like 3314 @ ball ends. Apparently the TYM website and marketing division is currently being revamped and dealers are hoping for a new website soon.

At least they were able to come up with the answer! It seems almost all of the tractor manufacturers need work in this area. Some don't seem to like publishing specs at all, which isn't much better than publishing specs, that don't specify the details...sorta seems implied with "specifications", you would think.

 

[TYM Tractors]

Fyi, just confirmed it with the TYM dealer ... the 3pt lift is that 2945 @ 24" ... and something like 3314 @ ball ends. Apparently the TYM website and marketing division is currently being revamped and dealers are hoping for a new website soon.

This is true! Our new website is expected to launch by mid April, as well as updated software for both our parts and warranty system's.

 

[TYM Tractors]

As a reference, these are the official specifications for our 40-50 horsepower models.
You might need to zoom in.

 

[EddieWalker]

Fyi, just confirmed it with the TYM dealer ... the 3pt lift is that 2945 @ 24" ... and something like 3314 @ ball ends. Apparently the TYM website and marketing division is currently being revamped and dealers are hoping for a new website soon.

What is the advantage to having the highest 3pt lift ability? If the attachments weigh a thousand pounds at the ball ends, why would it matter if you can lift more then the other brands if they are all able to lift well into excess of the weight of the implements?

I would focus on other things like loader lift and the size of the bucket. Transmission type, comfort of the seat and interior. How good is the AC and what does it take to keep it working? I know a guy with a Zetor that he picked up real cheap that has to pull the to of his cab off to clean out the AC radiator because it gets so clogged up mowing that it stops working. What good is a cab if it doesn't keep you comfortable? And the most important thing is how far away is the dealer and how well stocked are they on parts?

Eddie

 

[TSO]

What is the advantage to having the highest 3pt lift ability? If the attachments weigh a thousand pounds at the ball ends, why would it matter if you can lift more then the other brands if they are all able to lift well into excess of the weight of the implements?

I would focus on other things like loader lift and the size of the bucket. Transmission type, comfort of the seat and interior. How good is the AC and what does it take to keep it working? I know a guy with a Zetor that he picked up real cheap that has to pull the to of his cab off to clean out the AC radiator because it gets so clogged up mowing that it stops working. What good is a cab if it doesn't keep you comfortable? And the most important thing is how far away is the dealer and how well stocked are they on parts?

Eddie

For the most part I agree. The point to posting the numbers (of all the comparable factual, and not opinion based specs) is to show where each tractor compared to the others for each spec objectively.

However, I will tell you that the lift power DOES matter in relation to how it handles a 3pt implement. For example, my HD Back Blade might weigh somewhere around 1000lbs but it sticks out almost 5' behind the tractor, so it's not the same "weight" as if measured at the ball ends of the 3pt.

Anyhow, while both my LS R4047 and my new Massey 1648 cab handle the blade ... the Massey handles lifting it much easier. Not that the LS strained, but i could definitely feel it when I lifted it. The Massey on the other hand, lifts it without even feeling it. It's a noticeable difference.

Might not ever matter... or it could matter in the long term. Like anything else, using something to the end of its limits might have long term consequences, vs using it within its comfort zone with room to spare.

 

[TSO]

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=361919"/>
As a reference, THESE are the official specifications for our 40-50 horsepower models.
You might need to zoom in.

Yes, the HP numbers I posted were for HST models only ... that is where the driveline loss shows in the PTO HP numbers.

 

[slowzuki]

I will tell you the lift numbers on the 3 point don't really matter that much. Even with a loader on you won't be able to use that hitch capacity unless you get a big bucket of dirt first. My snowblower is a big side chute model Normand that sticks way back, with blower raised the tires barely touch the ground, can't steer on snow unless you fill the bucket. Everything else big I have for the 3 point is barely usable on the small tractor.

As an example my KV AB85 spring reset plow below. Hitches up fine, tractor lifts it without sweat. Front tires barely touching ground, no where near enough tractor to use the plow.



Below the blower. I use the blower about 80-100 hours per winter and it runs well, just heavy.