concernedcitizen
New member
- Joined
- Nov 13, 2015
- Messages
- 20
- Location
- Will be Montana
- Tractor
- In the Process of Due Diligence for purchase
Hello all,
I'm a newbie, comparable to out of diapers to all of this, so be gentle if you would because I have questions and am suffering from information overload (due to the great number of members here as well as more information than I could possibly absorb or even sort through in a years time).
What I have learned (well at this point, lets just say I think I've learned, time and responses will tell if I actually did) is that the more information and specifics I provide in my posting, the better and more specific the answers in replies from the members will be in helping guide or steer me in the correct direction.
I am looking for a new tractor, not a used tractor
1. mowing of grass Areas would total around 3 acres combined
1a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
2. Brush Cutting Area would initially be roughly 20 acres followed by additional occasional for maintenance of that area as well as a limited number of new areas that would likely not exceed 1 acre in size
2a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
3. Tilling Rotor tilling Area would initially be around 2 acres followed by very limited increases that would likely be less than a ï½½ acre in size
3a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
4. Disk/Harrow disk No predefined area at the moment, plans would include the use of a harrow disk set for making/breaking new ground for crops (mostly) and creation of fire breaks (secondary)
4a. would like to use a 72 or 84 width attachment
5. Post hole digging and Post hole driving Would be used heavily initially and then for routine maintenance of a large fencing system
5a. would like to use 6" 12" and 18" auger bits
6. Front end Loader (FEL, one of the terms I actually learned from this board) Would be used for a wide variety of jobs/needs; gravel and sand placement/moving; moving of fallen trees/brush; removing pallets from trucks, moving pallets around the ranch and general usage
6a. Need to be able to lift pallets off of trucks weighing in the range of 2,200 (bare minimum) to 4,200 lbs (maximum) with a I壇 be happy medium capacity of 2,500 lbs +/- but larger capacity would be great.
7. Pulling logs
Location would be in middle Montana, not mountainous, but parts would be hilly if you will. There will be some decent grades of hills that the tractor would need to overcome occasionally but not on a daily basis.
From the limited information I was able to process, it appears as though I should be looking for a tractor with 4 wheel drive, as parts of the ranch have the ability and will likely be muddy, but correct me if I知 wrong and please do point me in the right direction
Tractor would be used pretty much year round, but nothing anticipated as far as snow duties are concerned, such as none of the following; snow blowing, snow plowing, etc.
While I think I am aware that tractors that meet the above criteria are not cheap, but are almost certainly rather expensive. I am not able to say price or cost is not an issue, if what I think I have seen about prices (high Tens of thousands of dollars for the tractor alone) than I am at least in the right ballpark and an not out my league. I am not on an unlimited million dollar budget, but I'm also not specifically tied to a 60k budget either.
I am certain that in the future as we (family) grow in our confidence and abilities, that there will be additional jobs or tasks that we will want the tractor to take on, so I would like to oversize the tractor a little bit, like go one or two sizes bigger so that we are not later faced with needing to sell or trade it away for a bigger one.
The problem is that the only thing I have currently to contribute as far as potential later uses would be to bale hay for some livestock (likely to be 2 dozen head of cattle, up to 4 horses and maybe some goats). So if its not possible to provide opinions or options for this, I will certainly understand.
My next issue is the number of manufacturers and models. This is indeed where the overloading of information started and to this hour continues. To a total newbie, I cannot make heads or tails, north or south of the sheer number of line item specifications.
There is not really any dealer close to where the ranch will be located, so no matter which brand I'd be purchasing, its a minimum of an hour and a half drive (on a sunny day) each way to get there. So unless there is a reason that I am not yet aware of I have been leaving that out of the equation for making a decision on which brand to purchase. I was not able to find any new Holland dealers (via their dealer locator), so I have excluded them unless or until I can find one within the range of the other closest dealers.
Not having any previous history, well that I can remember except from childhood about brands, I have no bias entering the search. I only want the best tractor that I can afford that will do what I am looking for it to do with heavy emphasis on the tractor being reliable. I have been mostly concentrating on the Case IH, Deere and Kubota brands, but I am not limiting myself to those brands if another manufacturer would be a better fit to my needs.
I have sat in numerous manufacturers and models from 30HP up to 400HP (at a show, where I could avoid talking to the reps in detail), but without knowing where to start looking for the HP or PTO HP range that I would need to be in, it is impossible to narrow down what or which one, if any, felt better.
I don't want to go into a local dealer until I have it narrowed down to two or three models as I felt that doing such would weaken my ability to negotiate (the biggest weakness will still remain my newbie status), which is why I am looking for recommendations and such to expand my knowledge and hopefully tilt the negotiations in my favor or at least level them out to neutral before going to the a local dealer to negotiate.
If more information is needed, I will be try to include such in an additional posting
I look forward to hearing from the members here for recommendations, opinions and advice
Last but not least, thanks in advance for helping out a complete newbie as well as putting up with a question similar to that of thousands before mine.
I'm a newbie, comparable to out of diapers to all of this, so be gentle if you would because I have questions and am suffering from information overload (due to the great number of members here as well as more information than I could possibly absorb or even sort through in a years time).
What I have learned (well at this point, lets just say I think I've learned, time and responses will tell if I actually did) is that the more information and specifics I provide in my posting, the better and more specific the answers in replies from the members will be in helping guide or steer me in the correct direction.
I am looking for a new tractor, not a used tractor
The tractor would be used for the following tasks
1. mowing of grass Areas would total around 3 acres combined
1a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
2. Brush Cutting Area would initially be roughly 20 acres followed by additional occasional for maintenance of that area as well as a limited number of new areas that would likely not exceed 1 acre in size
2a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
3. Tilling Rotor tilling Area would initially be around 2 acres followed by very limited increases that would likely be less than a ï½½ acre in size
3a. would like to use a 60 or 72 width attachment
4. Disk/Harrow disk No predefined area at the moment, plans would include the use of a harrow disk set for making/breaking new ground for crops (mostly) and creation of fire breaks (secondary)
4a. would like to use a 72 or 84 width attachment
5. Post hole digging and Post hole driving Would be used heavily initially and then for routine maintenance of a large fencing system
5a. would like to use 6" 12" and 18" auger bits
6. Front end Loader (FEL, one of the terms I actually learned from this board) Would be used for a wide variety of jobs/needs; gravel and sand placement/moving; moving of fallen trees/brush; removing pallets from trucks, moving pallets around the ranch and general usage
6a. Need to be able to lift pallets off of trucks weighing in the range of 2,200 (bare minimum) to 4,200 lbs (maximum) with a I壇 be happy medium capacity of 2,500 lbs +/- but larger capacity would be great.
7. Pulling logs
Location, Terrain, Climate, etc
Location would be in middle Montana, not mountainous, but parts would be hilly if you will. There will be some decent grades of hills that the tractor would need to overcome occasionally but not on a daily basis.
From the limited information I was able to process, it appears as though I should be looking for a tractor with 4 wheel drive, as parts of the ranch have the ability and will likely be muddy, but correct me if I知 wrong and please do point me in the right direction
Tractor would be used pretty much year round, but nothing anticipated as far as snow duties are concerned, such as none of the following; snow blowing, snow plowing, etc.
While I think I am aware that tractors that meet the above criteria are not cheap, but are almost certainly rather expensive. I am not able to say price or cost is not an issue, if what I think I have seen about prices (high Tens of thousands of dollars for the tractor alone) than I am at least in the right ballpark and an not out my league. I am not on an unlimited million dollar budget, but I'm also not specifically tied to a 60k budget either.
I am certain that in the future as we (family) grow in our confidence and abilities, that there will be additional jobs or tasks that we will want the tractor to take on, so I would like to oversize the tractor a little bit, like go one or two sizes bigger so that we are not later faced with needing to sell or trade it away for a bigger one.
The problem is that the only thing I have currently to contribute as far as potential later uses would be to bale hay for some livestock (likely to be 2 dozen head of cattle, up to 4 horses and maybe some goats). So if its not possible to provide opinions or options for this, I will certainly understand.
My next issue is the number of manufacturers and models. This is indeed where the overloading of information started and to this hour continues. To a total newbie, I cannot make heads or tails, north or south of the sheer number of line item specifications.
There is not really any dealer close to where the ranch will be located, so no matter which brand I'd be purchasing, its a minimum of an hour and a half drive (on a sunny day) each way to get there. So unless there is a reason that I am not yet aware of I have been leaving that out of the equation for making a decision on which brand to purchase. I was not able to find any new Holland dealers (via their dealer locator), so I have excluded them unless or until I can find one within the range of the other closest dealers.
Not having any previous history, well that I can remember except from childhood about brands, I have no bias entering the search. I only want the best tractor that I can afford that will do what I am looking for it to do with heavy emphasis on the tractor being reliable. I have been mostly concentrating on the Case IH, Deere and Kubota brands, but I am not limiting myself to those brands if another manufacturer would be a better fit to my needs.
I have sat in numerous manufacturers and models from 30HP up to 400HP (at a show, where I could avoid talking to the reps in detail), but without knowing where to start looking for the HP or PTO HP range that I would need to be in, it is impossible to narrow down what or which one, if any, felt better.
I don't want to go into a local dealer until I have it narrowed down to two or three models as I felt that doing such would weaken my ability to negotiate (the biggest weakness will still remain my newbie status), which is why I am looking for recommendations and such to expand my knowledge and hopefully tilt the negotiations in my favor or at least level them out to neutral before going to the a local dealer to negotiate.
If more information is needed, I will be try to include such in an additional posting
I look forward to hearing from the members here for recommendations, opinions and advice
Last but not least, thanks in advance for helping out a complete newbie as well as putting up with a question similar to that of thousands before mine.
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