Goodbye Ford 4000...hello...L2800??

[Tnorris7]

My dad and I need to upgrade from a '64 Ford 4000 gas, 2wd, 4fw-2rv. tractor. We cut 10acres, some of it hilly, once a week w/ 6' finishing mower, occasionally part of it w/ bushog. Disk and plow 1/2 acre garden, dig post holes, scrape a little dirt here and there. Found a new Kubota L2800 standard shift, 2wd for $9700. Not sure what hp our Ford is and not sure if the 2800 will meet out needs. Can't find much info on the 4000, like it's current value. (2 owners, runs great) Any help would be appreciated.

EDIT: Ive been told our Ford is about 40hp. The 2800 looks like a bad idea. I'll be looking at others.
Anyone with an idea what the Ford would be worth?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Highbeam]

Maybe run up the Kubota L line to the 3400 or 4400. All very similar if you liked the 2800.

 

[wushaw]

Also the Ford is not 4wd. But the L4400 would be a great choice.

 

[lhfarm]

Last spring, I sold my '64 Ford 4000 and purchased a New Holland TC40DA. The 4000 was gas and had a Kelley loader. I sold it for $4500. It was in pretty good shape, with fresh paint.
I have been extremely happy with the TC40DA. I was concerned about the hydro, especially for bush hog work. That has turned out to be one of my favorite features of the new tractor. Being able to match the ground speed to field conditions and setting the cruise control is great.

 

[Bob_Young]

I have both an L4300 (predecessor to the L4400...same engine) and a Ford 4000 diesel (3 cylinder-mid '70s). The Ford is more powerful than the Kubota (maybe 8 to 10 hp) and weighs considerably more to boot. The Ford's engine displacement is 201 cu. in., where the Kubota's is 134 cu. in. The L4300 needs the weight of its FEL to handle a 6' med. duty bush hog (BB720). The Ford does OK without any front end weights, but would benefit from a few hundred lbs.

They both handle the bush hog pretty well. But when it comes to clearing nasty stuff, I use the Ford. It just seems to pack a greater reserve....and it's already beat-up /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

To have something directly comparable to the Ford, I think you'd have to look at the Kubota M4900 or M5700. However, the application you describe would not seem to heavily tax a 4000. If that's true, an MX5000 or an M4800 would probably satisfy your needs. An L4400 would probably work too if your implements weren't too heavy for the tractor.

The L2800, on the other hand, would be a big step backwards in both power and weight. Whatever you do, get 4WD....didn't think it necessary myself, but now I'm a convert.
FWIW
Bob

Edit: Oops! Sorry! Just noticed your 4000 is 1964 vintage. It's not the same animal as mine. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Can't say for sure what directly compares to yours. I'd guess the MX5000.

 

[aloha]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Ive been told our Ford is about 40hp. The 2800 looks like a bad idea. )</font>

Don't be too quick to rule out the L2800 and similar size machines. My B7800 does fine for brush hogging 15 hilly acres (every 3 weeks, 2 to 4 feet of dense new growth), scraping, post hole digging, and more. No plowing or disking, however, and I suspect a heavier tractor would be a benefit for those tasks.

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Ive been told our Ford is about 40hp. )</font>

I have an old service manual that covers the Ford 4000. I believe it had the 134 cu in. engine. The manuals says this model is 48 hp. The other Ford gasoline engine is 172 cu in. and is about 62 hp. The weight of that tractor is probably around 3000 lb, but the heavier industrial models with loader are 5000 lb or more. I had an industrial model and sold it about 5 yr ago. Mine was also a 1964.

 

[Tnorris7]

Thanks for all the replies.
My dad settled on a 3400 and was given 2250 for the Ford 4000. I hope he got enough for the Ford.

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Thanks for all the replies.
My dad settled on a 3400 and was given 2250 for the Ford 4000. I hope he got enough for the Ford. )</font>

I sold mine for $1000. It smoked so bad I had a cop stop one day because he thought I was on fire. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif It also had the SOS transmission I referred to as Select-o-Leak. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif When the guy who bought it pulled out of my gate, I closed and locked it and took my phone off the hook. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Soundguy]

He got a good deal.. figure 1500 to reman the mosquito-fogger engine and 1000-1500 to swap in a real tranny.. and he's at 4000$ on the 4000.. that's still a good price in this part of the country! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Soundguy