SCUTs, why so little competition?

[rback33]

Originally Posted by orgt

Please see my previous post, nope, no size fights with me!

Kindly post more info on size, price, etc on that 2815 on this thread if and when you can. The bigger Mahindras seem to price very competitively so we might have a CONTENDER.

Dave may actually be able to answer this better than I can. The 2415 will be slightly bigger than the existing 2015. However the 1815 will be smaller and may fit the bill better.

[DavesTractor]

Originally Posted by rback33

Dave may actually be able to answer this better than I can. The 2415 will be slightly bigger than the existing 2015. However the 1815 will be smaller and may fit the bill better.

My info is only preliminary, so I have nothing to post as of yet on the 1815/2415. The 1815 will be lighter than the current 2015. For most people a heavy tractor is good, but as has been beat to death on this forum, there is a place for a lighter unit.

[swines]

Originally Posted by orgt

I am just curious, why is it that "lesser-known" brands don't seem to compete with Kubota's wonderful but pricey BX series? The TZ from NH is even more expensive, ditto for JD machines.

This market must have huge upside. In addition to all the folks who quickly discover that there are many things that a garden tractor cannot do (tons of this and other forums), there is a huge new-ish market with the tens of thousands of folks who buy themselves a MacMansion each year and HAVE the dough to get the "better" stuff (which is why they will drive a Mercedes when a Camry would do just as fine a job) I see them all around here with farmland being gobbled up by developers. I still travel quite a bit and I see the same thing all across the country.

Anyway, I could see all these brands from Japan, Korea, India, China, etc. who have been building tractors for decades offer very good Sub Compacts at lower prices. Why don't they? Am I missing something?

Yes, you're missing something - how the tractor is going to be used. I have 1.25 acres and have had a Ford 1720 + loader + rear blade + post hole digger + sub-soiler for nearly 14 years. It is indispensible - in fact - so much so, that my wife insists that we will NOT have a smaller tractor.

During the 14 years, I've moved over 70 tons of gravel, topsoil, etc. Used it as a forklift on numerous occasions, plowed the driveway, leveled, smoothed, dug-up most of the 1.25 acres at one time or another, moved numerous shrubs and trees from the trailer to the installation location, and put in 750-feet of pipe fence. The landscaping is being done incrementally, and I expect to move an equal amount of new fill dirt, gravel, ground cover topping, shrubs, trees, etc. over the next 5-6 years. I use a single tine sub-soiler to make the first cut for the underground irrigation system when I install new zones, and then finish the final trench by hand.

I do work for the neighbors on a regular basis with the tractor as they do not have tractors and need the same type of work done.

I use a JD GT275 garden tractor for roto-tilling and lawn mowing - really a sub-CUT just wouldn't "cut it" for me. I suspect many other people have equal needs. I have more money than time, and the time + work a larger tractor saves me is well worth the extra money. Make sense?

[orgt]

It does make sense and thanks for the perspective... I think you missed post #49 though LOL. Here's what I said:

"Personally I look at "sizes and labels" with a very open mind.

Some CUTs are so strong they behave like much bigger tracs, as Coasterez noted with his Kioti CK25 for example. And yet I bet if you put turf tires on them they won't have more of a footprint than SCUTs.

And then you have Neil who hears many customers being surprised by what these little SCUTs can do.

Ain't this wonderful?

Expensive LOL, but wonderful."

Anyhow, would you have more info or even pics for that "single tine sub-soiler"? Whadizzit? Sounds really interesting. So far I've done the irrigation for our organic gardens by hand but we may move out west where water needs will be much greater and I'm always interested in learning anyway.