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    I just got this new chain that I bought. I think xyz123 called them vanguard chain. Will this chain work better or worse if I cut these large rakers off ? I'll make sure I never buy this type chain again
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    You really don't want to cut the rakers all of the way off. The chain will bog down into the wood too much. Bring them down evenly without burning them too much by getting them hot from grinding. Not too big a deal if you hand file just don't go bugger up your cutting tooth.
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    Quote Originally Posted by Treemonkey1000 View Post
    You really don't want to cut the rakers all of the way off. The chain will bog down into the wood too much. Bring them down evenly without burning them too much by getting them hot from grinding. Not too big a deal if you hand file just don't go bugger up your cutting tooth.
    Thanks,but have you ever seen the rakers on this type chain ? I mean it looks like another cutting tooth backwards .They are large.I have a die grinder I can use to grind it off or way down without getting the chain to hot
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    I agree -- dont cut them off. I am willing to bet that if you trim them some a touch - it will make all the world of difference.

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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    The Vanguard chain is the safety version of the 3/8 pitch full chisel chain. The drags look like somebody took a depth gauge that was way too big, and just bent it over. It is designed as a low kickback chain. You can probably take them down a little to get the chain to bite better.
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    I "lower" my rakers using one of these sharpeners. Pretty inexpensive too.
    I lower them a little more than most people do. Depends on the power of the saw you have.
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    Quote Originally Posted by Treemonkey1000 View Post
    You really don't want to cut the rakers all of the way off. The chain will bog down into the wood too much. Bring them down evenly without burning them too much by getting them hot from grinding. Not too big a deal if you hand file just don't go bugger up your cutting tooth.
    X2 The chain would definitely cut too deep...Not to mention she might bite you...Buy a full chisel chain if you want something more aggressive.
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    Id probably just get another chain low kick back chains don't have the best cutters anyway. my .002
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    I think the cutters are pretty much the same whether low kickback or not. It's them stupid bumpers in front of the cutters. If you want to take them down just go a little way down. You will get a lot more cut. Keep in mind each of the rakers are tilted one way and then the opposite on the next raker. If you truly want to get the best cut file or grind slowly the rakers going one direction. Then turn the chain around or your stance so that the depth below the cutting tooth is the same.
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    Default Re: chainsaw chain

    Thanks, I don't think I'll take them off while the chains are new,but as I use them and have to sharpen them ,I'll go to work on them.I don't think I'll have any issues with bogging the saw down If/when I grin them down.This saw seems to have plenty of power .Had I known b-4 I bought .I wouldn't have bought this type chain. It seems to me (as a novice cutter)There are just so many chains # out there to choose from ,it's hard for the novice to know what their buying.
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