Jinma 284

[20 20]

Specs on a 254{basically same as 284} according to Northern Tool;

tractor;
ground clearance - 11.6
pto speed -540/1000
pto power - 23.75hp {of course this will be a little more for the 284}
3pt hitch type- cat 1
lift capacity - 875
rated rpm - 2300/2350
fuel tank - 5.81 gal.

FEL;
bucket width - 60 inches
digging depth - 5"
max hiegth - 8' 5"
******lift capacity - 940lbs
breakaway cap - 1815 lbs

[20 20]

It looks like tractor with FEL is going to weigh around 3649lbs???? not sure if that is correct.

[greg_g]

Originally Posted by 20 20

It looks like tractor with FEL is going to weigh around 3649lbs???? not sure if that is correct.

That's about where I ballpark'd it too, but I was figuring a 4' bucket. In my estimation, a five footer is a bit too much loader for a 200 Series

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[Diamondpilot]

I have both the 4' bucket and the 5' bucket for my 254 and I use the 5' bucket 90% of the time. Its nice because it cover the wheel track. The 4' bucket is really handy when digging. I need to add a tooth bar to it. By the way digging with a tractor is not what they were designed for. This can and will eventually lead to a failure. Its a loader, not a digger.

Also the 5' bucket and 4' bucket are the same capacity. The 4' bucket is deeper by about 5" and about 2" taller. Either way they are both 1/3 yard buckets.

Chris

[studor]

I only have a 5 foot bucket I mean for the tractor

[Affordable]

We use a Korean loader with a lift cap of 1500 lbs,5' bucket on the 254 tractors,you also have to use some common sense when using a frontend loader ,95 % of our tractors are sold with loaders.Most front drive failures I have seen were from full buckets of dirt/gravel with the front wheels turned(side loaded)

Overall a quality made loader with rear axle support brackets will provide trouble free service.When considering a tractor /loader purchase think about what you are going to use the tractor for.You would not buy a compact truck if you were hauling 2000 lbs would you ?

Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
"Your Jinma Parts Superstore"
Home of compact Jinma, Foton, and Koyker Tractors and Parts, Wood Chippers, Backhoes - Affordable Tractor Sales Company

[hbaird]

I have a Jinma LE200 with a 1050LB backhoe and a Koyker 140 mounted on it. It has no trouble handling either. I am careful and take it easy in everything I do.
hbaird

[3RRL]

My wife's Jinma 284 has a 4' wide bucket and ZL-20 loader.
IMHO, I think a 5' bucket may be too big for it? Although nice to have for some uses like when scooping lighter (less dense) materials, but most guys would eventually fill it with something the loader couldn't lift. Something that would be pushing the limits of the loader, FWD or the tractor itself. (lol ... I know I would)

Even with the 4' bucket, I've scooped up heaping mounds of dirt that it wouldn't lift. I did change out the stock fel valve with Ronald's (Ranch Hand Supply) after market valve which is much better than the stock one. Tommy carries those as well. Her loader did not come with rear axle supports like Tommy talks about either. I think that's a very important brace for any kind of loader work to distribute the forces. So I made my own supports. It was pretty easy to do and sure makes a difference in strengthening ... reducing the chance of breaking due to loader stress or twisting etc. I copied the Koyker loader braces which I have on my Kama 554.

[SPIKER]

hey 3RRL:

nice looking mod on the loder bracket to rear ROPS bracket:

I got a question, did you remove the lower ROPS bracket and weld that into the long arm going forward?

also does that plate on the FEL tube get in the way for putting the Back hoe on/off? notice it seems to cover up the backhoe mount plates some...


again great looking work you do up there...

NOW for the question, put me in that column of people who broke the front end doing something that a tractor is not really made for... I bent my ZL20 FEL down in the right side slightly down from level when (ramming submerged concrete piers attempting to loosen them enough to remove.) and later left the tractor in 4x4 and went to scoop up some wet sand/dirt that was on well compacted clay. the bucket dug into the clay and I scooped up raising the FEl and sheared off a front drive axle, costs were fair and low enough to make me not hurt in the pocketbook too bad but not so bad as to be sticker shocked either. Tommy @ affordable had the parts & got them to me quickly. also to be fair, I've used my 284 more like a bulldozer than a tractor, often skidded large logs (support one end and drive off, pulling hard enough to raise front tires on more than one log) drive it regularly into the crick/washout, over a rather steep bank and dig up wet sand/gravel (full buckets worth) and back back out. (I still do this and dug enough down to get to bedrock/flag stone.) and been hauling bucket fulls of that out to build patios at the farm & at my GFs house.

I put 3 buckets full of sand into the 1/2 ton truck and had to shovel one back out as it fully flattened the springs... so lifting weight is no big deal, a friend of mine uses his to run 2 round bales of hay out of the field, 1200 lbs ea, one on front and one on back of his 284, (we brought our tractors from china as a crate deal.)

Tractor weight I would say you are close to right, I used large fork lift to remove all the tractors from the delivery truck, (7500 lb fork truck) it easly lifted one tractor, the back hoes shared a crate and the fork truck had a little grunt to get them up so if you have 284, ZL20 FEL and JW03 hoe then I would say closer to 6500 lbs total weight... I have towed my tractor fel and hoe one time (from shop to my farm) on a 10,000 trailer and full size chevy dually. the trailer was very well squatted down...

mark

[3RRL]

Originally Posted by SPIKER

hey 3RRL:

I got a question, did you remove the lower ROPS bracket and weld that into the long arm going forward?

also does that plate on the FEL tube get in the way for putting the Back hoe on/off? notice it seems to cover up the backhoe mount plates some...
mark

Hi Mark,
Thank you for your comments.
First answer is yes, I removed the lower ROPS bracket for welding the tube brace.
I welded the front mounts to the FEL towers while on the tractor.
Second answer is I don't have a backhoe for this tractor.
But I intentionally did not use the backhoe mount plates for the new braces. There is no reason you couldn't angle the new braces outward and then go forward to the FEL tower tube to give you whatever clearance you need for the backhoe. I would highly recommend those braces especially if you have a backhoe. They help distribute and absorb the stress created from both backhoe and FEL.