Tractor Sizing Foton 254

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13gef13

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I've been trying to find out, without any luck, the weight of the Foton 254 with and without 4 in 1 loader. I need to know if I can carry it on my car trailer. Also would like to know the weight of the bucket as I carry that on the ute if neccessary.
Thanks, Geoff
 
   / Foton 254 #2  
Working weight w/o loader should be under 1200 kilos. I think my 1.550 meter 4-in-1 weighs in the neighborhood of 450 kilos. So lets say 400 kilos if you go with the smaller bucket. Depending upon which tires you select, you might need to consider ballast weight as well.

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Do you know the approx weight of the bucket/scoop by itself?
Thanks, Geoff
 
   / Foton 254 #4  
I can only speak for my 5 footer:
MODEL Frontier AY11H-60
Dimensions
Width, in. (cm) 61.88 (157.2)
Height, in. (cm) 26.94 (68.4)
Depth, in. (cm) 28.01 (71.1)
Cutting width, in. (cm) 60. (152.4)
Clam opening, in. (cm) 28.45 (72.3)
Weight
Operational, lb (kg) 360 (163.3)
Shipping, lb (kg) 385 (174.6)
Hydraulic cylinders
Type 2 - Double acting
Clamp force
Open, ft-lb (N) 3605 (16035.8)
Closed, ft-lb (N) 2378 (10577.9)

But this is on a 43hp John Deere. I'm thinking you might want to go smaller for a 254. A four footer for example, will likely run closer to 250 pounds; bucket only. Frame/arms/hydraulics/mounting hardware add up too.

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   / Foton 254 #5  
I need to know if I can carry it on my car trailer. Also would like to know the weight of the bucket as I carry that on the ute if neccessary.
Thanks, Geoff

When you say "Ute", are you refering to a toyota sized 4 or 6 cylinder pickup/utility vehicle? From my few trips to Aus, that or a car turned pickup, reminiscent of the El-Camino here in the US(only smaller) was what I recall was passing as a "Ute" I have Toyota size trucks, and I don't think I would tow a trailer with my 254 on it with one of my trucks. My 254(jinma) weighs close to 2800 pounds without FEL, with FEL and subframe, it is closer to 3700 I think. With a trailer suitable to haul that much weight, the package approaches 5000 pounds. Better than 1 1/2 times my truck weight. I just don't have the brakes for that much weight... I have trailered my tractor, but I did it with a full sized V8 powered truck with a very heavy dual axle trailer, and I definitely knew it was back there...
 
   / Foton 254 #6  
Chinese tractor are heavier without any doubt (compare to any known brand), i haul mine on a 2x 3500# axles car trailer with a F-150
 
   / Foton 254 #7  
Chinese tractor are heavier without any doubt (compare to any known brand), i haul mine on a 2x 3500# axles car trailer with a F-150

Then your trailer has a 7,000 lb. GVW capacity. Assuming the trailer weighs around 1,500 lbs. that leaves you with a maximum 5,500 lb. payload.
 
   / Foton 254 #8  
hi gef, not sure if i can help or not, i have the 250 foton 2wd and slasher, from memory it comes in around 1350 kg, i didn't go the 4wd because i would of been overweight for the trailer, gross is 2t, claimed weight for 2 trailers i have had was 500kg when i weighed them both came in at 600kg, i would recommend the electric brakes not the override, i sold the trailers and bought a small truck havent looked back, much better
cheers stuart
 
   / Foton 254 #9  
Then your trailer has a 7,000 lb. GVW capacity. Assuming the trailer weighs around 1,500 lbs. that leaves you with a maximum 5,500 lb. payload.

That's an acceptable trailer for the job, but depending on which F150 you have, that might be getting close to the towed weight limit on some models of the 150(7800 LB for trailer all-up/gross weight) I used a larger truck last time I moved mine:)
 
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Must be embarrassing for F150 owners to watch my Porsche towing 7700 pounds.

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