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    Default Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    I have a tractor that I dont think the cold start works on. The tractor is very hard to crank in cold weather. Once the tractor cranks it will crank very east from there on out. I was wandering if the the heaters from Northern Tool(magnetic and blanket). They also have one that mounts under the oil pan with 3m tape. I hope in return the block and oil will contain some heat for easier starts. Anyone have in suggestions.

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Magnetic heaters are a joke, and I can't see a real application for a blanket heater in your case. Pan heaters however, effectively thin the oil - which helps increase cranking speed. But the real issue is why the "cold start" doesn't work. And I think you still owe us a few answers from the last time we tried to diagnose this. Didn't we conclude that you had an intake heater? If yes, they're pretty basic concepts to troubleshoot.

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    i had to put a new switch on the tractor and donr beleive it works correctly.

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Those magnetic heaters are a joke. Blamket heaters are not much better either.
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    Will


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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by stampede38899 View Post
    i had to put a new switch on the tractor and donr beleive it works correctly.
    Well, I guess there's the possibility that you didn't connect the cold start system to the right post on the keyswitch. But you've got multiple issues here. Which to you want to pursue first?

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    Nothing works better than a block or lower rad hose heater. I have tried them all.

    The glue on pan heaters are the next best choice but a magnetic heater is worthless.

    Chris

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    I have an all hydraulic tractor with something like 28 gallons of fluid. There is no clutch on the pump so the engine starts immediately turning 3 pumps. This is an oil cooled Deutz engine so no option for coolant heater. I used 2 magnetic heaters on the large hydraulic oil tank and a smaller one on the oil pan. It made a huge difference when temperatures got below freezing. Without them, starting the tractor was ugly. So I am surprised that people say they are worthless. I ran this way before upgrading to intake manifold heaters.

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringHollow View Post
    This is an oil cooled Deutz engine so no option for coolant heater.
    I think you mean air cooled. High velocity air cooled for the cylinders, heads, and oil cooler.
    Yuchai 306R dozer, Mustang 2040 skid steer, Mitsubishi MS035 Mini-Ex with four buckets and a rake, Trimble equipped 7' Dual Dozer with twin GCR-2 laser receivers, and a LiTW BH7600 back hoe (sold).

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Magnetic heaters may be a joke but they've worked for me. I bought one when I was having trouble starting a borrowed Satoh. It warmed the tractor enough to make a difference in starting. I later used it on my Ford Van as an assist to the block heater.
    Heck back in the '60's we'd put a frying pan under the engine.
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Default Re: Magnetic or Blanket Heaters

    Anyone try a dip stick oil heater?

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