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    Default What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    The Jinma web site lists it as:

    Lifting Capacity at 610mm Behind Lift Pioint (N) 5800
    What's the N? is that Newbury's?

    I'm darn sure it's not kg, that would mean 12,786.8 lbs. And 5,800 lbs seems excessive.

    580 KG would make more sense, but that's puny.

    /edit - the 35HP Mahindra, 4035, lifts 2,800 lbs
    Last edited by newbury; 01-08-2013 at 04:51 PM.
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    N is Newtons=9.8 kg

    5800N=1303 lbs. That does sound small though.

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    You reversed it.

    1kg = 9.81 newtons

    thanks
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    Our Siromer 254's (slightly enhanced Jinma 254) state maximum lift of 800kg on the link arms... As far as I am aware, there is no enhancement or difference to the linkage of a 354, so should be about the same.

    Our old 204 has managed over 1 tone on the lift arms, but would not recommend it as it does damage the splines.
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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Localmotion View Post
    Our Siromer 254's (slightly enhanced Jinma 254) state maximum lift of 800kg on the link arms... As far as I am aware, there is no enhancement or difference to the linkage of a 354, so should be about the same.

    Our old 204 has managed over 1 tone on the lift arms, but would not recommend it as it does damage the splines.
    That's a big difference from whats on TractorData.com. They list the 254 as lifting 875 POUNDS. TractorData.com Jinma JM-254 tractor information

    It seems the Jinma is weak in the 3pt arena.
    Last edited by newbury; 01-08-2013 at 10:53 PM. Reason: typo
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbury View Post
    That's a big difference from whats on TractorData.com. They list the 244 as lifting 875 POUNDS. TractorData.com Jinma JM-254 tractor information

    It seems the Jinma is weak in the 3pt arena.
    My 284 will easily lift 2000#. Just last week I lifted a 500 gallon propane tank with 70 gallons in it onto a trailer with no issues. I have also lifted some big pallet of stuff with my forks.

    My 3 point lifts all implements and a occasional round bale withot hesitation.

    Chris

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondpilot View Post
    My 284 will easily lift 2000#. Just last week I lifted a 500 gallon propane tank with 70 gallons in it onto a trailer with no issues. I have also lifted some big pallet of stuff with my forks.

    My 3 point lifts all implements and a occasional round bale withot hesitation.

    Chris
    Thanks!

    So maybe although tractordata and Jinma only list the 354 for 1,300 lbs it will probably do 2,000 plus.
    My rides - '95 Kubota M4700 w/ PEC, LA1001 FEL :'07 B7610, LA352 FEL, Bush Hog SBX 48 box blade, '09 Woods BH70-X w/ 16" bucket and thumb, 3pt pallet forks, Dale Phillips PHD, Jinma 8" chipper, 2 Piranha's, Winco 12KW PTO generator, Howse plow, 5' KK tiller, 5' Big Bee cutter, with a 2002 7.3L Ford F350 CC DRW 4x4 and '07 18' Hudson HSE Deluxe trailer - 5 Ton to haul it all

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    Hi ,

    Not sure about 2000#'s, my DF354 (similar weight will do or is rated at 1500#. But with a lot of weight you may want to add some front ballast on the front. Even the front weights supplied will help but maybe something heavier. i have moved pallets of firewood on the back and the front wheels can lift or at the least limit your usual steering capabilities.

    Dave
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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    You might want to look at your tractor's construction and note that it is held together in the middle by about eight bolts in the bellhousing. Think about how much weight those bolts can withstand, over several feet of leverage. I personally wouldn't exceed the manufacturer's recommendation on lift capacities of either the FEL or the TPH.

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    Default Re: What's the 3pt lift capacity on the Jinma 354LE?

    Quote Originally Posted by newbury View Post
    That's a big difference from whats on TractorData.com. They list the 254 as lifting 875 POUNDS. TractorData.com Jinma JM-254 tractor information

    It seems the Jinma is weak in the 3pt arena.
    Sorry, forgot that Siromer offer an uprated 3pt linkage option which we fit as standard to all our customers tractors - hence the greater load capacity in the handbook. Guessing that Tractordata is right for the standard Jinma linkage, as they are very lightweight...

    If you have a loader fitted, the support brackets bridge the bell housing spreading the load between front and rear sections of the tractor. For 4 years we used a heavy 3pt mounted grader blade capable of dragging approx. 1.5 tonnes on the back of our 204S with no problems other than to the splines on the lifter (which were easy to repair). That said, I agree that it is unwise to exceed the rated lifting capacity on a regular basis.
    Fiat-NH 50-86vi, Siromer 204S; Ebro 44; Case CK28; Cat 302.5; Nissan L35.09

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