Mowing Jinma 254 PTO stopped working

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I was brush hogging my pasture yesterday and the PTO quit working. No noises just quit. Now I can shift the PTO engage disengage lever without engaging the clutch but the pto drive does not engage
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   / Jinma 254 PTO stopped working #2  
On a guess I would say look at the PTO engagement lever, it might have broken off. When you move the lever, does it feel like it's doing anything? With the engine off, if you turn the output shaft does it feel like you're turning anything else or does it feel like it's spinning free?

There's not much to the PTO. To help you visualize it, if you follow it from the flywheel, at the flywheel the PTO clutch is under the drive clutch. The input shaft to the drive transmission is hollow and the PTO driveshaft runs inside of it and through the drive transmission. The driveshaft runs to a small gearbox under the seat that drops the speed down about 4:1, if you have the 2-speed PTO it has two speeds. Then it outputs through the back. So the components that could possibly fail are the clutch, the driveshaft, the gearbox or the output shaft.

It's important to try and isolate where the problem is because it affects how you attack it. If it's at the clutch end you have to split the tractor to expose the clutch. If it's at the gearbox you can get to it by taking off the seat and the lift box. If it's the engagement lever you might be able to fix it from the outside. So the first step is to probe from the outside and see if you can figure out what is connected and what isn't so you know where to start.

On mine it is simple and safe to take off the gearshift cover, four bolts. I don't know how much you can see, but that allows a look inside to see if you can figure out what is connected and what isn't.

Another thing to note is whether with no implement on the PTO, the PTO engaged and the engine running the PTO output shaft turns a little or not at all. If it turns a little that indicates something is slipping.
 
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#3  
On a guess I would say look at the PTO engagement lever, it might have broken off. When you move the lever, does it feel like it's doing anything? With the engine off, if you turn the output shaft does it feel like you're turning anything else or does it feel like it's spinning free?

There's not much to the PTO. To help you visualize it, if you follow it from the flywheel, at the flywheel the PTO clutch is under the drive clutch. The input shaft to the drive transmission is hollow and the PTO driveshaft runs inside of it and through the drive transmission. The driveshaft runs to a small gearbox under the seat that drops the speed down about 4:1, if you have the 2-speed PTO it has two speeds. Then it outputs through the back. So the components that could possibly fail are the clutch, the driveshaft, the gearbox or the output shaft.

It's important to try and isolate where the problem is because it affects how you attack it. If it's at the clutch end you have to split the tractor to expose the clutch. If it's at the gearbox you can get to it by taking off the seat and the lift box. If it's the engagement lever you might be able to fix it from the outside. So the first step is to probe from the outside and see if you can figure out what is connected and what isn't so you know where to start.

On mine it is simple and safe to take off the gearshift cover, four bolts. I don't know how much you can see, but that allows a look inside to see if you can figure out what is connected and what isn't.

Another thing to note is whether with no implement on the PTO, the PTO engaged and the engine running the PTO output shaft turns a little or not at all. If it turns a little that indicates something is slipping.

The PTO engage lever does not feel like it is doing anything. I removed the guard for the two place detent and the lever will not pull out. When activating the lever and watching the central shaft it turns with the lever.
The PTO output shaft rotates freely by hand with the engine off and on so there is a disconnect.
 
   / Jinma 254 PTO stopped working #4  
Are both PTO levers engaged? The 254 has two of them. The main lever down by your right ankle when seated, and the 1000/540 speed lever which has a neutral between the speed positions, behind the right side of the seat...
 
   / Jinma 254 PTO stopped working #5  
If I had to bet I would say the PTO lever has broken inside. Go to this site:
Jinma Dealer, Wood Chipper , Compact Jinma Tractors

Scroll down to where it says "254LE PTO" and look at the pictures. If you look at 1-5 and 10 it shows what the other end of the PTO lever does. Look at the white asterisk on picture five.

This thread discusses the repair procedure:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/chinese-tractors/84857-problem-pto-engagement-jinma-224-a.html

Not hard, but the lift box has to come off and you need a winch or something to lift the weight.

Mine doesn't have it, but some Jinma's have a plate on the back for attaching a second hydraulic pump for a backhoe. If you have it you might be able to peek inside and see if that is the problem without having to take everything apart.
 
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#6  
Tried that I was hoping it was something quick and simple but no such luck. The PTO engage lever (down by right heel) moves with only the resistance of the detent
 
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#8  
What parts would you recommend and can I return any unused parts. I don't want to take the tractor down open it up and then have to wait for parts to complete the job.
 
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