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Old 02-01-2008, 01:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You would have thought that same thing from CAT?

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Old 02-01-2008, 02:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Just like all the Kubota products, it will probably be a quality product out of the gate; adding, or forcing a new level of competition, like the rest of their tractors with the consumer benefitting?
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that the " I wouldn't buy anything first year out" is a reason not to purchase a machine you need. If you just "want" one then go ahead and wait for the bugs to get worked out. Although all the bugs almost never get worked out. There will always be room for improvement.

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Old 02-05-2008, 03:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Just like all the Kubota products, it will probably be a quality product out of the gate; adding, or forcing a new level of competition, like the rest of their tractors with the consumer benefitting?
I would have to agree with that statement. The track system that Cat uses from ASV is still not perfect, it is good, but by far the most fragile of em' all. I bought a B series 287 and had tons of seal and torsion bar issues that I had to fight with Cat to stand behind. I would buy a first year Kubota than a third generation Cat with yet ANOTHER "new" style undercarriage.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Since most including Cat have just put tracks on a wheeled machine and they were not really designed as a track machine you will see these types of things more often. We sell lots of ASV and just don't see these types of problems.

Build it as a tracked machine from scratch and it will be better than a machine that is an after thought I am sure. Having said this, if Kubota is building one and it is a track design from the get go I think it will have some advantages over a design that was wheeled and converted. So to Kubota this is good. On the flip side of that I bet it will start off very expensive and will surely have to go through a period of use, design updates etc. to be competitive.

I am looking forward to seeing it however. Will they come up with any real new innovation? Well Kubota is good but this will be a new arena for them and it won't be easy.

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I would have to agree with that statement. The track system that Cat uses from ASV is still not perfect, it is good, but by far the most fragile of em' all. I bought a B series 287 and had tons of seal and torsion bar issues that I had to fight with Cat to stand behind. I would buy a first year Kubota than a third generation Cat with yet ANOTHER "new" style undercarriage.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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And guys don't forget that some of the Volvo Skid Steers use a Kubota engine. I would think that some Kubota engineers had to have some input/experience with that.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm definitely not an agricultural guy but why would you put tracks on the back (other than traction)? I do know that the first thing you lose sight of in wet fields are the front tires right after they sink into the mud. I can't see it doing much for reducing soil compaction either which is what the CAT Challenger was designed for (increased traction too).
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Those tractors are for rice patties. They've sold track machines in Japan for like 15 years. Like I said, tracks are not a new thing. Infact all the technology in a track machine is somthing they already use in other products. My only concern is aux hydraulic flow. They never seem to completly get how much flow is needed for some of our attachments.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:31 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I share your concerns about aux. hydraulic flow..."Give me MORE MORE MORE"

I combine the flow on my ASV 4810 and get in the mid-40's GPM...but I feel like I always want MORE!

Guess its time for a FECON 148

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