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    Default 10,000 lb trailer length question

    I'm wondering if a 16' beavertail trailer will work for me. It's flat for 14' and then has 2' of tapered floor for 16' total.
    I haul my L4300 kubota around in the summer and it usually has a 1000 lb 6' tiller or 1100 lb 6' Brillion seeder hooked to it. Weight is maybe 5500 lbs max and that's on a good day. There are a couple times a summer when I haul a 6500 lb Deere 5520 that has an 85" wheelbase and 14' over all length.
    Because of the tapered 2' of the above beavertail I mention I wonder if the tractor weight will be centered over the axles correctly or will put too much weight on the tongue of the trailer? This would be especially true when I haul the bigger tractor. Will the weight be cenered?

    I was looking for an 18 ft trailer but his popped up and is a deal good enough that I want to consider.
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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    If you have a loader then to small, if no loader then just measure it to see if it will fit. The beaver tail shouldn't effect weight distribution, but the overall length could.
    With that 1000 pounds on the back you should be ok if it fits in the 16 feet.

    16 feet is small though and you will wish you got bigger in no time.

    I've got a 20 footer cause it was to good of a deal to pass up, I thought it was way bigger than I needed, but now I realise 18 would of been to small for some of the configurations I'm moving.

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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    I would look for a longer one if you have a loader and want to keep and rear attachments on as well.
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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    Can tractor wheels sit down on the beavertail when hauling?
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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    16' is too short, period. Especially when there is only 14' of usable length. You can't get the load centered properly. A lot of variables are involved in trailer loading including what you are pulling it with. Better safe than sorry.
    I had a 18' tilt bed but found I couldn't get the weight transfer to the hitch correct when I had the backhoe attached. I solved the problem with a 20' 14,000 lb. PJ split-bed tilt. I never regretted spending the extra money.

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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    Quote Originally Posted by sixdogs View Post
    Can tractor wheels sit down on the beavertail when hauling?
    NO! Check with your DMV or state patrol.
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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    You also need enough deck length to get proper angles on your tie downs.
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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Rooks View Post
    16' is too short, period. Especially when there is only 14' of usable length. You can't get the load centered properly. A lot of variables are involved in trailer loading including what you are pulling it with. Better safe than sorry.
    I had a 18' tilt bed but found I couldn't get the weight transfer to the hitch correct when I had the backhoe attached. I solved the problem with a 20' 14,000 lb. PJ split-bed tilt. I never regretted spending the extra money.

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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    Quote Originally Posted by sixdogs View Post
    Can tractor wheels sit down on the beavertail when hauling?
    With the tiller or seeder you wouldn't be on the ramps with the wheels.

    Do you have a loader?

    No need for a beaver tail with a 4X4 utility tractor, but I think it might work if the whole package is not longer than 16 feet, with the heavy implement on the back the weight distribution might work. but would be tricky tying down the front as was mentioned by tcartwri above.

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    Default Re: 10,000 lb trailer length question

    Quote Originally Posted by JB4310 View Post
    With the tiller or seeder you wouldn't be on the ramps with the wheels.

    Do you have a loader?

    No need for a beaver tail with a 4X4 utility tractor, but I think it might work if the whole package is not longer than 16 feet, with the heavy implement on the back the weight distribution might work. but would be tricky tying down the front as was mentioned by tcartwri above.

    JB

    No loader for this application, just a a kubota L4300 for minor construction tillage and finish work. The 16' trailer is a great deal but that's because of the short length. Yeah, it would work for my basic use but I think if I put the bigger tractor on the weight might be too far forward and put too much weight on the tongue. The tie down thing doesn't bother me since it would have a dedicated purpose of small tractor, no loader and one impliment. I only haul maybe 10 miles one way.
    Being price motivated, the $$ caught my eye for a quality trailer. Thank you for the wisdom here.
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