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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    Quote Originally Posted by whodat526 View Post
    i would first check the air filters
    Air filters are fine. Looks like I'll be checking the pump next.
    thanks everyone.

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    have shop manual for the ford 555c TLB. it covers A,B,C,D models 3cylinder and 4 cylinder models along with turbo charges. 4WD and 2WD, and a couple different transmission types. it costs like 100 to 150 bucks, but WOW manual is a 2 to 3 phone books thick, and covers everything from pulling stuff apart to testing, to putting everything back together. very detailed explanations with diagrams.

    you can goto the "new holland" website, and look up the "parts manual" freely online. normally use Construction Equipment-Backhoes-Mini Excavators-Skid Steers-Pat Kelly-MO (place i bought mine from) and have direct link to the parts manual on there front page vs trying to click through newhollands website.

    operators manual is a joke for the 555c TLB.

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    i have had some issues with the throttle cable. coming from the foot pedal, and also cable that runs up to the hand throttle for use of backhoe. and going up to the "governor?" right hand side beside fuel filters (kinda between fuel filters and engine block and below fuel filters a little bit). sticking on me some. and had to re-adjust all the linkages. and then put a piece of rubber radiator house near engine. due to some extra slack, was binding up / bending. and not allowing the governor to fully open up yet i had peddle to metal. and as a result, i had to some times wait for "vibrations" alone from engine running, to unbend the throttle cable. some to open up the governor all the way up. at least until i added the short piece of hose around throttle cable.

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    when you changed fuel filters, did you make sure to bleed air out of the lines? there is a little hand pump atleast on the 555c i have. that can help get the air out of the lines. and located right beside the fuel filter.

    the shop manual i can not remember right off hand, but suggests changing air filters out i want to say every 100 hours. ((there are 2 air filters)) one outer one, and one inner one. the 555c i have, has a sensor in the intake manifold side of things. (right hand side of tractor, near the muffler)) and if air filters get clog, has a "warning light" on right hand side dash panel, that will come on, letting me know air filter is clogged.

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    i do not have a turbo charger, or ether. but rather a glow plug. (right hand side of tractor) i want to say near the muffler, little bit in front of the fuel filters, in the intake manifold = glow plug. double check, if you have ether, or the glow plug. and double check if you do have ether, that you have put on a replacement bottle of it.

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    the 555C TLB i have, can be a beast to start. when the battery is low. more so in cold temps. adding engine block heater / core heater. really does help a lot in cold winter times. though a battery blanket helps a good amount to. for cold winter times.

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    did you ever run the tractor dry of fuel? and did you re-prime the injectors? pull the injectors out, turn the key, to let engine turn over a few times to pump fuel through lines, and then put injector back in, and repeat for rest. ((i think that is correct way to do it, i have not had to do it before, so better off asking others))

    the fuel tank, shut off valve, (left hand side) bottom of diesel tank. is it vibrating partially open / close? had a little trouble when i bought the 555c TLB i had, with valve wanting to close a little bit on me.

    the gas cap for the tank. there is a breather hole, is it free and un-clogged?
    Ryan

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    I've got both manuals. The online catalog is a great resource as well.
    Mine has one fuel filter. I did bleed it.
    Never ran it out of fuel.
    I've looked at the cable but I'll give it another look.
    I haven't checked the vented cap but I pulled the cap to check the fuel level with the engine running and there was no change in RPM so I can rule out the cap being plugged.
    Battery is good and I keep a maintainer on it.
    I'll check the fuel shut off on the tank.
    Thanks for the input. It gives me a couple things to check before tearing into the pump.

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    When the hand primer gets old they can allow air to suck in. I had to replace mine once.
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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    a restricted air filter should lead to overfueling and black smoke..

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    also check to make sure it isn't sucking air at the fuel filter housing bleeder i just had you that was hard to start if it set for a week or two and all it was was the filter head had a small crack at the bleeder screw

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    I finally had a chance to check a few things....

    Pulled the fuel line going into the pump. I have a steady stream of fuel.

    Pulled the filter and regulator valve out of the pump. They were covered in a rusty/red colored kind of sticky substance. Cleaned and re-assembled.
    Pulled the bleed screw on the pump. Cranked engine and got a good stream of fuel shooting out the bleeder. Put bleed screw back in.
    I've tried bleeding the fuel lines to the injectors. I'm not getting any fuel. So I pulled the lines at the pump and cranked the engine. I'm not getting any fuel coming out of any of the ports on the pump.

    Seems to me since the pump shoots a good stream of fuel out the bleeder the pump is pumping, and maybe the metering valve is stuck. How do I get it un-stuck?
    Is there anything I can put in the pump to clear out whatever is gummed up?
    Is there a way to remove the metering valve with the pump mounted on the engine?

    Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
    Pops

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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    Sounds like you have a dose of diesel bugs. You won't get any fuel at the individual pumps (barrels and plungers) by operating the lift (primer) pump anyway, or cranking the engine in the no-fuel rack position. Not sure what you mean by "metering valve".
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    Default Re: Ford 555 TLB

    I'm no diesel mechanic so this is new to me. Looks like the governor controls the metering valve which controls the amount of fuel going to the individual pumps.
    The shop manual says when a metering valve sticks, it usually sticks in the closed position preventing the engine from starting. If I can get to it, that's what I'll check next unless someone has a better idea.

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    i'd ask whodat or rickb.

    i'm not a diesel mechanic.


    ( i'm not a mechanic at all.. I just own tools and beat on things.. )

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