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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    I recently purchased a used Z Force 48 and have had the opportunity to cut my lawn twice with it. It is definitely getting easier and faster to do as I learn the ins and outs of how to steer this thing, and how fast to go. There is a learning curve for sure.

    This particular unit has had a curious life prior to my purchasing it. While the frame and deck show above average care was taken throughout its life, the original 22 HP Kohler engine has been replaced with a new 26 HP Briggs and Stratton. Apparently the original engine blew up some 30 hours after the warranty period, or so I'm told. The upgrade in power has proven itself on my yard.

    I have to mow a hill off the backside of my home that is about 30 foot wide. The hill is also about 40 feet high and has a 22.5 degree incline for the most part. The Z Force manual makes the point that any grade more than 15 degrees should not be mowed with a zero turn mower. Cautiously, the only way to cut this hill is to cut it going straight up, and move over at the top for the next pass cutting while backing down. I was concerned about losing traction while cutting going straight down and I was correct. The weight transfer to the front of the unit allows too much rear wheel traction loss when I tried cutting going head first down the hill. That first time straight down the hill made my eyes get big in a real hurry. Didn't do my heart rate any good either!

    Needless to say, I am very pleased with this unit, particularly because the upgraded horsepower climbs this hill with no hesitation, not even a change in the exhaust note.

    Once I have had a half dozen mowings with this Z Force I'm quite confident that I'll appreciate it even more, and I'll be able to cut down my time cutting grass by a great deal. So far a love affair in the making!

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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by GBHRPS View Post
    I recently purchased a used Z Force 48 and have had the opportunity to cut my lawn twice with it. It is definitely getting easier and faster to do as I learn the ins and outs of how to steer this thing, and how fast to go. There is a learning curve for sure.

    This particular unit has had a curious life prior to my purchasing it. While the frame and deck show above average care was taken throughout its life, the original 22 HP Kohler engine has been replaced with a new 26 HP Briggs and Stratton. Apparently the original engine blew up some 30 hours after the warranty period, or so I'm told. The upgrade in power has proven itself on my yard.

    I have to mow a hill off the backside of my home that is about 30 foot wide. The hill is also about 40 feet high and has a 22.5 degree incline for the most part. The Z Force manual makes the point that any grade more than 15 degrees should not be mowed with a zero turn mower. Cautiously, the only way to cut this hill is to cut it going straight up, and move over at the top for the next pass cutting while backing down. I was concerned about losing traction while cutting going straight down and I was correct. The weight transfer to the front of the unit allows too much rear wheel traction loss when I tried cutting going head first down the hill. That first time straight down the hill made my eyes get big in a real hurry. Didn't do my heart rate any good either!

    Needless to say, I am very pleased with this unit, particularly because the upgraded horsepower climbs this hill with no hesitation, not even a change in the exhaust note.

    Once I have had a half dozen mowings with this Z Force I'm quite confident that I'll appreciate it even more, and I'll be able to cut down my time cutting grass by a great deal. So far a love affair in the making!
    Neat! Probably worth keeping in mind that the extra power of that B&S motor has the potential to put extra stress on the hydros. like when tearin' up that hill . I'm guessing the're probably not cheep to replace...
    Massey GC2410TLB w/ thumb, 2320 54" MMM, 2360 50" front blower, Woods LRC60 rake w/ gauge wheels, Woods GBC48 Box Scraper, IMD 10KW PTO generator, Paynes forks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsteahr View Post
    Neat! Probably worth keeping in mind that the extra power of that B&S motor has the potential to put extra stress on the hydros. like when tearin' up that hill . I'm guessing the're probably not cheep to replace...
    Cub Cadet uses that 26hp Briggs & Stratton to power one of its lower series mowers (RZT 50VT), plus the Z Force mowers have serviceable hydros. So if he keeps the hydros in good shape he should be just fine!

    GBHRPS: Sounds like you got yourself a great mower. Keep us posted!!
    Mark
    2010 Cub Cadet RZT 50 w/ 22HP V-Twin Kawasaki

    "Relax...I only cut my grass once a week! I'll be OK!!"

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    I baught the rzt 54 - Junk - its hit 200 hours and the right side tranny is starting to fail, along with two other minor issues. I thought the izt2800 would be better. NOOOOOO its not its just as crappy, as the last ezt I owned. I have treated my mower like gold, no funny 360's no speeding just the good stuff. AND Like every other person out their have found out that they have been ripped off. Im sorry I spent about 4000 gs on this 200 hours---grrrrr. The first zturn I owned was the rzt50 the tranny went on the right side twice, the left side never. STAY AWAY keep your wallet happy

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    Seriously? Another drive-by? Or is this just one person re-registering?
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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by CCinCT View Post
    Seriously? Another drive-by? Or is this just one person re-registering?
    beuthling MAY have a legitamate issue! With that said though, the fact that he (she?), and margegeneverra, just registered here to bash Cub Cadet makes me a little skeptical. As of right now all of their posts (14 total in just a couple of days! ) have done nothing but seek out Cub Cadet threads where they could provide negative input. Whether either of their stories are real or not, we'll probably never know. To me they don't carry a lot of weight. Maybe one day they will prove me wrong, but for right now I am VERY PLEASED with my CUB CADET RZT 50!!

    To beuthling and margegeneverra: If your issues are valid, sorry for your misfortunes. I really hope you find happiness with another brand! But please start posting on their forums. You have succeeded in getting your point across here! Best of luck!
    Mark
    2010 Cub Cadet RZT 50 w/ 22HP V-Twin Kawasaki

    "Relax...I only cut my grass once a week! I'll be OK!!"

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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    We looked at a Cub Cadet Tank ZTR last summer (or rather my FIL looked at one and I helped "test it out"), but we ended up with a kubota BX2660. Slightly nicer cut, B section deck drive belt, easier for him to drive.

    Personally, I prefer the 2660 to the Tank we drove. It may have just been the way it was setup, but the steering on the Tank was "twitchy" and it was much harder to keep going in a straight line than the Exmark and Huskvarna zero turns that I have run (I used to work for a lawn care company mowing commercial properties and I also repaired our equipment, so I spent way too much time on/under a ZTR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAsZ71 View Post
    beuthling MAY have a legitamate issue! With that said though, the fact that he (she?), and margegeneverra, just registered here to bash Cub Cadet makes me a little skeptical. As of right now all of their posts (14 total in just a couple of days! ) have done nothing but seek out Cub Cadet threads where they could provide negative input. Whether either of their stories are real or not, we'll probably never know. To me they don't carry a lot of weight. Maybe one day they will prove me wrong, but for right now I am VERY PLEASED with my CUB CADET RZT 50!!

    To beuthling and margegeneverra: If your issues are valid, sorry for your misfortunes. I really hope you find happiness with another brand! But please start posting on their forums. You have succeeded in getting your point across here! Best of luck!


    Just so I understand... "I love my new ZT" is a valid post, but anyone reporting a problem is a "drive-by"?

    I did come here specifically to report my dis-satisfaction with the way thet Cub Cadet and their local dealer handled my problem with the mower that they sold me, and to let perspective customers know to be careful. I spent a lot of time working with them in hopes of getting some support. If more people spoke up, besides the "fan-boys", manufacturers would pay more attention to customer service.

    People search forums in different ways, so I posted my warning in multiple threads, based on the model and specific transmission topics.

    I have no idea who beuthling is. The problem that he/she reports is similar to mine and a common one.

    I'm glad that you're happy with your new 2010 model. I hope that you get to 300 hours some day. I was very happy with my ZT for the first 3 years and remained so until the $2000 transmission failure. I was sad to get rid of a machine with a strong engine, and with everything except the transmission in like new condition. I just could not see spending $2000 to repair a $2900 mower.

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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by margegeneverra View Post
    Just so I understand... "I love my new ZT" is a valid post, but anyone reporting a problem is a "drive-by"?
    Not at all. Problems and complaints are what start probably 95% of the threads here (or on any product-based forum). But when you post the same complaint in multiple threads without once asking for any kind of feedback, that comes off as a drive-by. Now maybe you were just making sure that your posts got picked up by the search bots, but I think that's a little disingenuous. Starting a thread with your model of tractor is the best way to get picked up by the bots, and it's also a better way to communicate with the regulars here, even if you weren't looking for feedback.
    2006 Cub 2544 w/plow

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    Default Re: Cub Cadet RZT 50 - Ongoing Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by CCinCT View Post
    Not at all. Problems and complaints are what start probably 95% of the threads here (or on any product-based forum). But when you post the same complaint in multiple threads without once asking for any kind of feedback, that comes off as a drive-by.
    Exactly! There is plenty of positive and negative feedback posted on all of these forums, but usually from active members that provide a wide variety of other information. To be honest, my "fan-boy" feedback probably carries as much credibility as yours because I have only been here a short time.
    Mark
    2010 Cub Cadet RZT 50 w/ 22HP V-Twin Kawasaki

    "Relax...I only cut my grass once a week! I'll be OK!!"

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