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Old 08-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Question about Breather Tube & Reed on Kohler CH18 Engine

On a Kohler CH18, what does the breather tube & breather reed do? I've been getting an occasional coating of oil on my air cleaner pan around the carb opening and don't know why (assumed to be come up through the breather tube which vents into the top of the carb). I assume that the breather is like a PCV valve on a car that vents crankcase gasses back into the carb to be burned-off. But I'm getting a film of oil that has on two occasions caused the engine to stall (usually after I've mowed uphill for a period of time). The oil level is just below the full mark on the dipstick.

Can anyone shed some light on why this might be happening?

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Old 08-28-2009, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question about Breather Tube & Reed on Kohler CH18 Engine

Yes, the reed valve is like the PCV on a automoblie engine. It's possible that the reed is broken or stuck on yours allowing the oil into the air filter housing
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Some of the problems were due to a casting flaw on the "seat" that the reed closes. If you check the reed and it shows an incomplete seating problem you should consult your dealer or examine the seating area for "flash" in the seat which does not allow it to close fully. Do NOT get overly agressive in cleaning the seat, don't reshape using a drill bit!

In addition there were cases of reed failures, cracking occurred and split the reed material.

Now before you get too indepth, you should do a simple check to see if you have vaccum or pressure in the crankcase. Grab a balloon and fit it tightly over the dipstick tube. Start the engine and observe the balloon, in should be drawing in. If it instead is inflating the balloon you know you have positive crankcase pressure, not good! Pull the spark plugs and inspect each side for oily deposits, if one side is wet and oily suspect a leaking head gasket {leaking compression into crankcase at the oil return passage or lifter gallery}.

If plugs look great suspect the breather reed/seat issue.
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question about Breather Tube & Reed on Kohler CH18 Engine

You can take a small filter and run the tube to that with a piece of hose. Do it all the time on motorcycles. Shhh,Don't tell the EPA.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question about Breather Tube & Reed on Kohler CH18 Engine

Well, I finally got around to inspecting/servicing the breather and reed on the Cub. The reed was fine, but the filter was in pretty bad shape, so I replaced it, reassembled everything, and hoped for the best. It worked great for 1.5 complete "mowings". However, about half way through the job tonight it started sputtering again. Upon further inspection -you guessed it: the breather tube was dripping oil. Something I forgot to mention before was that my back yard is on a bit of an incline, so I'm always either mowing down a hill or up a hill -rarely ever on perfectly flat ground. I never suspected this to be a problem before because I've mowed this way for the prior 6 seasons without a problem -until this year. Now I can't keep the oil out of the breather tube. Looks like it's time to route the breather tube away from the intake altogether.

Anyone have any other ideas?
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question about Breather Tube & Reed on Kohler CH18 Engine

I had this problem with one of the cast iron K series kohler engines. I replaced the breather assembly with a kit and the problem stopped. The kit has a new plate, filter, etc. in it. Was cheap enough that you could try it.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Don't suppose you recall the Kohler part number?
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just did a quick search for a breather kit for the CH18. Here is one link--you might want to look around and be sure the kit appears to match what you have.

Breather Parts : Kohler Engines and Kohler Engine Parts Store, Genuine Kohler Engine Parts
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