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    Default Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    I was thinking about installing a set of tires/rims set up as duals on the rear for more stability of my Simplicity Sunstar. I was going to bolt them on with the 4 all thread rods holding the rear wheel weights on now, with the weights seperating the tires. Any problems with doing this?? Would it give better traction for snow plowing??

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    I suggest not going that route. The all thread is made to hold the wheel weights not the weight of a tire or the torque applied when the tires are called on for traction.

    At least fab up something that ties back to the mouting for the factory wheel mount.

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    John,

    This concept, although sound, never really seems to pan out that well. Probably the best example I can think of would be our hospital, which runs Steiner machines. They have one with dual wheels and one without. According to the property manager, there is no real difference between where the machines can go or what they can do. This statement regarding a machine which has a dedicated kit for said purpose. They do not plow with them, but again according to the manager of grounds the dealer said if they did plow that the dual wheels were a detriment, rather than a help. He sells virtually no dual wheeled machines now for this reason--a poor cost/performance ratio. I am sure on a standard garden tractor, things might be different, but I cannot imagine it would be worth the trouble and they would look silly on an otherwise nice-looking machine. I would maybe go for a wider stock tire or tire-wheel combo and weight it really well and save the trouble and money, and maybe an axle also.

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    Quote Originally Posted by KB9UDE
    I was thinking about installing a set of tires/rims set up as duals on the rear for more stability of my Simplicity Sunstar. I was going to bolt them on with the 4 all thread rods holding the rear wheel weights on now, with the weights seperating the tires. Any problems with doing this?? Would it give better traction for snow plowing??

    John
    Using the search function, look for a member by the name of Mith. Drop him a PM and ask him about the duals he put on one of his tractors. I think it worked out pretty good for him.

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    For plowing snow, the narrower the tire, the better the traction. Wide tires tend to ride up on the snow, whereas the narrow tire will move closer to the pavement. I had very wide tires on my plow truck, and it was always getting stuck. When I put narrow tires on it, I had no more problems. When I plowed with my Bolens HT20, I used chains, and it slipped a lot. Now I snow-blow with a BX22, and it has enough weight in the rear, that it doesn't slip at all. If you need extra weigh, consider a weight box or having the rear tires filled with Rim Guard.
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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    Duals will just help the rear float on top rather than dig in the snow. Singles with weights and chains work the best.

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    John, see this link, that give the description of how I put duals on my WH.

    As has been said, they make you float over stuff rather that dig through it. In the mud down the garden the tractor would sit on top of much that was too sloppy foe me to stand on without sinking. The stability it offers is great too. 30+ degrees is no problem.


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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    Thanks for the info.

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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    I too have a Simplicity Sunstar albeit rebadged as a Duetz Ultima. LOVE the machine. Before I got that I did do a dual wheel get up on my cheapie MTD 19.5 HP tractor. Traction whent down in the wet. Duals as others stated provide floatation. Dry grass traction did increase/I could climb better. Side Hill stability as others here stated increased DRAMATICALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Drawback- I used the method you referenced & used the wheel wheight holes on the wheels with a 6" pipe spacer with studs welded on to go into the wheel weight holes. The inner wheels started cracking around the lug nuts. For the stability alone I'll refabricate to use the lug bolts but were I doing it for traction I would not spend the time. Currently I'm going to post here inquiring about Ag tires versus tire chains for traction versus lawn damage... With the wide tires on the rear of the Sunstar, any moisture to the grass & all I get is wheel spin unless I engage the differential lock. I'm curious which of the 2 provide better traction without killing a nice lawn. I expect damage with wheel spin but I'd like to avoid lawn damage with turning ect.
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    Default Re: Garden Tractor Dual Rear Tires

    F100, I have no trouble with tearing up the lawn with my AG tyres unles I spin them.

    What you say about duals spinning when its wet is true. However, with simgle wheels they tend to sink in, and I have sunk it to the floorboards a couple times, which I might not have done with duals.

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