MF 135 3pt. implement wont stay up

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I have a MF 135 and a Bush Hog 6' shredder. I must continually raise the shredder up to keep it from slowly lowering to the point where the rails dig into the dirt. What is most likely the problem and how much effore / $ will it cost to remedy the problem. thanks
 
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do you have 2 levers for controlling the 3 point hitch? if so, the one with then square top (inside IIRC) is labled something like (bottom to top): Low, High, Transport, Constant Pumping. move it up towards constant pumping, the other lever (may have a round top) controls the position of the 3 point hitch.

if it is like my dads massey you have to find the perfect balance between the two levers.

if you want it to move faster, next to your right foot on the side of the tranny is a lever, play with it, the farther back it is the faster the three point will move.

Aaron Z
 
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Is the lever physically slipping down and you have to keep repositioning the lever.. or do you put the lever in place and the implement then drifts down , and then you keep moving the lever up untill you run out of quadrant?

soundguy
 
   / MF 135 3pt. implement wont stay up
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Actually, the tractor has remotes added that are between my knees while seated. They control the 3 pt rather than the origional ones on the side. thanks
 
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Interesting valve setup..

soundguy
 
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do you have 2 levers for controlling the 3 point hitch? if so, the one with then square top (inside IIRC) is labled something like (bottom to top): Low, High, Transport, Constant Pumping. move it up towards constant pumping, the other lever (may have a round top) controls the position of the 3 point hitch.

if it is like my dads massey you have to find the perfect balance between the two levers.

if you want it to move faster, next to your right foot on the side of the tranny is a lever, play with it, the farther back it is the faster the three point will move.

Aaron Z


Not 100% correct.... The 2-lever controls on a 100 series Massey Ferguson are often misunderstood, even at times by long time 100 series owners.

On tractors NOT equipped with the remote hydraulic control valve (under seat) the "inside" lever, the one you describe as having the square knob, is the POSITION CONTROL lever. When there IS a remote hydraulic lever, it's left in the constant pumping position and the remote service valve is used to control the 3-point hitch. However, WITHOUT the remotes (levers under seat), that "square knob" is used to control the 3-point hitch for any functions where position control is desired. The DRAFT CONTROL lever (round knob) is left in the fully raised position while using position control. When DRAFT CONTROL is the desired function, such as when plowing, the position control lever is left in the "transport position" (mostly raised....and up against a stop tab) and the DRAFT CONTROL lever is used to raise/lower the 3-point hitch ONLY when using DRAFT CONTROL should you be using that round lever.

On SOME earlier models of the 100 series, BOTH levers had a round knob. The POSITION CONTROL lever is on the inside, nearest the seat. DRAFT CONTROL lever is closest to the fender.

There is a "draft response" control near the right heel, just above the running board. That controls the flow through the lift system. Speed of raising and lowering the hitch can be adjusted there. It's best left in the "fast" position if a remote hydraulic service valve option is installed.

The original poster describes a typical OEM Massey Ferguson remote hydraulic service valve. (under seat, between legs) When that valve is installed, the POSITION CONTROL lever is left in constant pumping position all the time. The service valve should have 2 levers. The lever on the right controls the position of the 3-point lift. The lever on the left controls flow to the remote quick couplers. DRAFT CONTROL function is still controlled by that "round knob" lever nearest the fender. Position of the 3-point hitch when NOT using the draft control is controlled only with the right hand lever on the remote service valve. You have "up", "neutral", and "down". There is no real "position control" as such. The hitch can, and usually does drift somewhat with the hitch controlled by that service valve.

So, long story short, WITHOUT a service valve, you should be using the "square knob" lever (only) for MOST of your 3-point hitch control functions, with the "round knob" lever left in the raised position. When using soil engaging implements (ie a plow) and draft control is needed, use (only) the "round knob" lever to control the hitch and leave the position control lever in the "transport position" (raised). WITH a remote service valve, ALWAYS leave the "square knob" lever in "constant pumping" position (fully raised) and control the 3-point lift with the right hand lever on the service valve under the seat. That function WILL NOT provide "position control". Draft control function will be the same as is without the service valve, using the "round knob".

Using the DRAFT CONTROL function/lever to raise heavy implements on the hitch generally results in less than stellar performance. It tends to "bob" up and down, not lift all the way through the range of motion, and not stay fully raised once lifted. Also, the weight of the implement sends a "heavy draft load" message to the draft control system, causing the lift to either try to raise, or if heavy enough, just completely dropping the load.
 
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Actually, the tractor has remotes added that are between my knees while seated. They control the 3 pt rather than the origional ones on the side. thanks


If you DON'T need the remote hydraulics, that valve under the seat can be easily eliminated. (using a blank plate to replace the valve) That will restore full control function to the 3-point control quadrant. (levers next to fender). The position control function of the quadrant is far above "average" for accurate position control. It will hold a mower in an exact position for hours of use with ZERO drifting.

There's a good market for the remote service valve too. (Contact me via PM if interested in removing/selling service valve. I can give you a good idea of what it's worth)
 
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If you DON'T need the remote hydraulics, that valve under the seat can be easily eliminated. (using a blank plate to replace the valve) That will restore full control function to the 3-point control quadrant. (levers next to fender). The position control function of the quadrant is far above "average" for accurate position control. It will hold a mower in an exact position for hours of use with ZERO drifting.

There's a good market for the remote service valve too. (Contact me via PM if interested in removing/selling service valve. I can give you a good idea of what it's worth)

If they go for anything like ford hyd cover valves go for.. yeah.. sell it if ya don't need it.

soundguy
 
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save ing
 
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wow.. talk about zombie thread revival.. 4ys old!
 
 
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