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    Default Single action or double action Valves?

    I'm looking to install a set of rear remotes on my Bota 7510 with the following intention of current and future attachments...

    I have a plow, w/ manual angle. Has two cylinders (one on each side for power angle) with a single inlet and no outlets on each... Is it easier to replace those with a single dual action cylinder and dual action valve or run singe action valve to it.

    future plans are for a grapple and will need to hook up my log splitter in the spring.

    So I'd like to install a 2 spool with a PB... Best option? Any input would be appreciated.

    Thanks...

    BTW, Kenny, i still have the info you gave me on my last hydraulic post but this is a different set up...

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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    2 spool double action 1 with detent float w /pb

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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighter kubota View Post
    I have a plow, w/ manual angle. Has two cylinders (one on each side for power angle) with a single inlet and no outlets on each... Is it easier to replace those with a single dual action cylinder and dual action valve or run singe action valve to it.
    Assuming that this is a standard straight blade, if you keep those cylinders you can hook them up to a double acting valve (in fact you would have to hook them to a double acting valve), one ram hooks to each side of the valve, this is because when one ram extends the other is forced to retract, if you hook it to a pair of single acting valves you will bend something because when you extend one side the other wont be able to retract.

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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    I put the optional 3rd scv kit on my JD4310 which utilizes an unused/spare valve on the loaders valve block, for a power angle snow plow, I don't know that much about hydraulics but got some help here.

    I believe it's a double acting valve since it has 1 lever but powers the single acting cylinders on the plow by moving it (the lever) both ways. going thru 2 remotes on the rear. I know this would work for a grapple or any other DA cylinder not sure about the log splitter.

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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Thanks guys...I thought it was all DA valves, Just wanted to be sure....

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    Not sure if this is what you would want, but Kennyd showed me this valve that I purchased based on his recommendation. So I blame him if it doesn't work.

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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kfbeal View Post
    Not sure if this is what you would want, but Kennyd showed me this valve that I purchased based on his recommendation. So I blame him if it doesn't work.

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    I'm trying to learn here, would this valve in the link operate 2 single acting cylinders as well as 2 DA cylinders.
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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Man! My name is getting thrown around a lot in this thread

    Fire K...
    I think you got your answer...two SA cylinders work work great on a DA valve, The valve see's two SA cylinders as one DA cylinder.

    I'm trying to learn here, would this valve in the link operate 2 single acting cylinders as well as 2 DA cylinders.
    How about this: 2 DA's and 4 SA's
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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennyd View Post
    Man! My name is getting thrown around a lot in this thread

    How about this: 2 DA's and 4 SA's
    OK I think I'm getting it, 2 opposing sa cylinders per spool?
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    Default Re: Single action or double action Valves?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB4310 View Post
    OK I think I'm getting it, 2 opposing sa cylinders per spool?
    Exactly
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