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03-14-2012, 11:01 AM #1Platinum Member
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Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
Hi,
I am new to the forum, and its great to meet everyone and see that there are fellow tractor owners/enthusiasts on here. So I have a Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300f 4WD tractor. I am looking at installing a front end loader, and a wood splitter, however there are no hydraulic ports.
I hear that you there may be ports under the seat where the control arm is for the 3 point hitch hydraulics. I know that it is possible to tie into the high pressure line, but I would rather not cut the original factory line if I can help it.
Does anyone know a way to do this?
Thanks!
Andrew Mitchell
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03-14-2012, 07:51 PM #2
Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
I can't answer your question completely, but I know there is an adapter block you can insert under the seat off the main hydraulics that will take the high pressure stream to an open-center hydraulic spool block. I will be picking up a G172 this summer that has hydraulics and will attempt to make a print of the adapter block but that will be some time out. I would imagine these adapter blocks, although not complicated, are not readily available anymore. You may be able to contact some of the few remaining parts suppliers to acquire one, most likely used if any. Plan on it not being cheap.
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03-16-2012, 10:20 PM #3Platinum Member
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Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
Thanks so much for the help!! I would really appreciate that when you get the tractor! Thats great you get to pick up a G172 this summer. Thats a great machine!
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03-16-2012, 10:40 PM #4
Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
I picked it up as a parts tractor mainly for the engine. I am going to attempt to swap engines between it and a Iseki TX1300F (Bolens G154). The motor runs good according to a friend who is holding it for me. The engine in the 1300 has compression issues that will require new pistons and rings to correct and I decided it would be easier just to swap motors instead of dealing with repair of the motor as it has already been gone through and sleeved with poor results by a former owner (gray-market repair specialist).
The G172 came with a front blower and associated hydraulics so those were some added bonuses. I'd ask around at the parts suppliers for an adapter block to keep your project(s) moving. Even when I can pattern the adapter (a low priority on my list sorry) you'll need machining capabilities to fabricate it and unless you know somebody or have your own machine shop it will be fairly expensive to have a commercial shop build you one.
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04-02-2012, 02:18 AM #5Silver Member
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Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
I recently picked up a rolled donor G154 for it's loader. I'll take a few pictures of the block and post them if you still need the pictures. I can also take measurements if you need them too.
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04-02-2012, 03:46 AM #6
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04-02-2012, 01:49 PM #7
Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
You shouldn't need to "cut into" any hydraulic lines to make this work. Everything should be bolted/use fittings.
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04-12-2012, 12:49 AM #8
Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
I picked up that block as part of a plow setup I bought from another forum member. Before I did the block was still available, but it was pricey. I was gonna buy just that block and build my own plow hydraulic setup. It has been a while since this, but the place I think that had it was Ray's mower service in Boyertown PA (I think). The piece is triangular with machined surfaces and insets for two oring seals with fittings for two hydraulic lines coming out. The price two years ago was, hold on to your hat, like $285. If you search the forum I had an older post that someone snapped a photo of this piece for me when I was looking for it, because I was ready to cut the existing hydraulic lines also to make live hyd. on my machine. It was dumb luck I got the whole plow setup with the live hydraulics levers and all, as I didnt know how rare this stuff was til I owned my tractor for a while.
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04-14-2012, 01:08 AM #9Platinum Member
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Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
Thanks so much for the help! I found the thread with the photo of the block. I also called Ray's but I have not heard back yet. They were checking to see if they still have this, and if it will work with the 2 cylinder model. That would be a huge help. It s still cheaper than an alternative of a PTO pump, that I have been considering. Do you know roughly how many GPM the factory pump produces? I want to use the hydraulics for a wood splitter, and possibly a hydraulic toplink. Thanks again!!
Mitch
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04-14-2012, 03:05 AM #10Veteran Member
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Re: Bolens G154/Iseki TX1300F hydraulic help needed
I have seen references saying that the G154 uses the same replacement pump as a Satoh S650. I have read that tractor has an output of 4.1 gallons per minute. However, one of my Yanmars of equivalent size to your Bolens takes a replacement pump with 75% more output than OEM. Tractordata.com says the G154 pump outputs 3 GPM, more in line with what I would expect. Either way, the log splitters I have seen use pumps that output more than 10 GPM, well over double even the maximum output of even the larger pump.
I think a PTO powered pump would be a much more reasonable option for having tolerable speeds out of a splitter.
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