2720 Specs

[Holiday]

The John Deere web site has the operator's Manuel for the 2720 on line.

OMLVU19798 2720 Compact Utility Tractor (106005-)

OMLVU19798_k7

[newt92]

Originally Posted by thebigc

Why does everbody hate on the 3120? I'll take my much maligned 3120 with the 300CX over anything in the 2000 class.

Big C, I am not hating the 3120. Not at all, I just was saying there is not much difference in price to jump to a 3320, only $400. If Deere makes the 2720, which IMO the extra hp, only a few really need it. I dont, if I was to trade up, I would go 3320 or 3520, but for my needs 2520 is enough for me. As far as the 3120, I have never even seen one in person. So if I ruffled your feathers, I am sorry, did not mean to.

Dennis

[thebigc]

No ruffled feathers but a 2720, even with a little more HP, coupled to the 200CX FEL won't come close to my 3120 / 300CX. I don't really run any PTO stuff besides my backhoe so I didn't need to go to a 3320.

I didn't mean to single you out newt92, but I see quite a few disparaging comments about the 3120 and how its so underpowered, why does JD even carry it, etc...

[putt_putt_green]

If the 2720 has a larger alternator and more horsepower, maybe there is a cab option down the road? But seeing how JD cabs are not after market items, I doubt this.

I use my B range all the time on my 3520. I can't imagine being stuck with just an A range and C range. I agree with Chris, 3 ranges might steal sales from the 3x20 series tractors, but it would also steal sales from other manufacturers.

[bandit67]

If JD hopes to steal sales away from Kubota's B3030, they need a 3 range hydro on the new 2720. Unfortunately, the owner's manual, which is the only literature we or any of the dealers can look at right now, says it'll be a 2 range hydro.

I talked to a dealer who expects to see their first one in May, and who was at a JD dealer meeting where the 2720 was briefly discussed, and he wasn't sure if there would be a 3 range hydro. All he said was "I hope so", but he still hasn't seen any literature from JD other than the online owner's manual that we've found.

[aesanders]

Originally Posted by bandit67

If JD hopes to steal sales away from Kubota's B3030, they need a 3 range hydro on the new 2720.

I beleive John Deere has already stolen sales away from Kubota with their 2305, 2320 and 2520. They have been very popular. I'm not so sure a 3 range hydro is a feature that would sway all buyers one way or the other.

That said, the three range hydro would be nice for certain applications, especially mowing where you could have it in the middle gear a good amount of time. It must not be that critical though as the highway mowing crew around me has a bunch of 2520's.

[bandit67]

Originally Posted by aesanders

That said, the three range hydro would be nice for certain applications, especially mowing where you could have it in the middle gear a good amount of time. It must not be that critical though as the highway mowing crew around me has a bunch of 2520's.

Yeah, but the highway crew is most likely using equipment purchased through wheeling & dealing by beaurocratic types and corporate salesmen. I really don't think the equipment operators have a whole lot of say in the matter.

I've seen quite a few Kubota standard B's with the 2 range hydro being used by municipalities around here. It's because of the pricing more than the features. Now Kubota has bumped it's standard B's up to 3 range, and I'll bet that they start stealing more sales away from JD as a result of the 3 range and the cheaper prices.

I'm not necessarily bashing here, just a bit frustrated that there was only 1 mfr. for me to go to for the features I wanted. JD unfortunately didn't have an option, and now that they are within a month or 2 of having one, they may not go all the way and offer a 3rd range. IMO, that's a big mistake. And that's just another reason why Kubota owns all the other mfr's in the compact market (based on market share).

[aesanders]

Originally Posted by bandit67

Yeah, but the highway crew is most likely using equipment purchased through wheeling & dealing by beaurocratic types and corporate salesmen. I really don't think the equipment operators have a whole lot of say in the matter.

I've seen quite a few Kubota standard B's with the 2 range hydro being used by municipalities around here. It's because of the pricing more than the features. Now Kubota has bumped it's standard B's up to 3 range, and I'll bet that they start stealing more sales away from JD as a result of the 3 range and the cheaper prices.

I'm not necessarily bashing here, just a bit frustrated that there was only 1 mfr. for me to go to for the features I wanted. JD unfortunately didn't have an option, and now that they are within a month or 2 of having one, they may not go all the way and offer a 3rd range. IMO, that's a big mistake. And that's just another reason why Kubota owns all the other mfr's in the compact market (based on market share).

I just don't see it as being that big of an advantage. For a few applications yes, but not for the majority. Most of the time, most users will be in low range with a 2 or 3 range hydro.

Frankly, I'd like to have a transmission like Massey's DynaQPS. Now thats a sweet tranny.

P.S. Why don't you take a look at Massey's 1528 or 1531. They both have 3 range hydro's and about the same size as the 3030. Maybe a little heavier all around. Nice machines...

[PAB_OH]

Depending on gearing I can definitley see an advantage to 3 spd hydro. In hilly east central OH a 2 spd hydro would be all but useless in a lot of the applications around here. Mowing is a perfect example but so is light loader work with relatively long transport distances between load/unload areas.

If I had to do all my work in MY low range I would scream. No way I would want to do work in high range though. The thing hauls. I know much of this part of the country is similar in terrain and to make decent time the 3rd range comes in handy. Like I said, 2 range would be a deal killer for a lot of folks around this way.

[orlo]

Pab:

I'm with you. I have a 2305 and a 3720 cab. On the 3720 I use Mid range much more than high or low. I hardly ever use high. I mow, etc. and even snowblow (When it's light) in mid range. I only shift to low for heavy loader work where I'm more 'digging' than loading. On the 2305 I use mid much more than low. Even do a lot of light loader work in high - On the 2305 I also mow in high.