Need Help.. 2305 won't Start

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 12:12 PM

I posted a new thread last week concerning the Fuel shut-off solenoid problem with my 2305. This weekend i replaced the solenoid and tried starting the tractor, it would spin over but would not start. I then removed the new solenoid and noticed the plunger was still out ( in the shut-off position). You can push in the plunger and it will stay but the solenoid will not pull it in by itself. The wires on the new solenoid are labeled pull and hold, there is no power on the pull wire at all. I've checked all fuses and they are fine. The battery is weak , but i even tried jumping in off and same results. Thanks and i'll be glad to try anything at this point.

Willl · 07-05-2008, 12:28 PM

Power on the 'pull' wire is only there for the first 3-5 seconds that the key switch is turned on.

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 12:34 PM

The only way i had to test it was with a test light and i had no power anywhere through the Starting cycle. I've been searching other post and have seen a Module mentioned. Is this a possibility?

Willl · 07-05-2008, 12:48 PM

Very possible.

On my 790, both 'pull' and 'hold' wires come directly from the "Time delay control module".

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 12:54 PM

When the solenoid went out , it actually "melted". It could have shorted something else at the samt time. I could run a Hot to the pull side of the solenoid on a toggle switch, but i hate to have to do that a tractor this new.

Willl · 07-05-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KHUGHES

but i hate to have to do that a tractor this new.

Ya, I'd have to agree.
Only have 2 ways to go here. Pay somebody to fix it or get a tech manual and start learning 2305 wiring yourself.

On mine, there's also a small cube relay tagged "K2" that plays some magical part in this fuel thing.
Pretty easy to test those.

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 01:13 PM

Thanks for your help. Do you know of any online sources for JD parts?

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 01:29 PM

Willl, The Battery acts to be pretty much SHOT. Do you think that could be the problem even though i get the same results when jumping it off ?

KHUGHES · 07-05-2008, 02:05 PM

Do 2305's have Thermistors? If so where would they be?

Willl · 07-05-2008, 02:28 PM

The only JD stuff I bought on line was the tech and parts manuals, both from deere.com

You bet, low battery voltage will do all kinds of weird things. Get a good battery in there.

What do mean by "Thermistors" ?

07-05-2008, 12:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Need Help.. 2305 won't Start I posted a new thread last week concerning the Fuel shut-off solenoid problem with my 2305. This weekend i replaced the solenoid and tried starting the tractor, it would spin over but would not start. I then removed the new solenoid and noticed the plunger was still out ( in the shut-off position). You can push in the plunger and it will stay but the solenoid will not pull it in by itself. The wires on the new solenoid are labeled pull and hold, there is no power on the pull wire at all. I've checked all fuses and they are fine. The battery is weak , but i even tried jumping in off and same results. Thanks and i'll be glad to try anything at this point.

07-05-2008, 12:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Willl Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest, WA Posts: 951	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start Power on the 'pull' wire is only there for the first 3-5 seconds that the key switch is turned on. __________________ My PhotoBucket If you can read this, your 'Ignore List' isn't working.

07-05-2008, 12:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start The only way i had to test it was with a test light and i had no power anywhere through the Starting cycle. I've been searching other post and have seen a Module mentioned. Is this a possibility?

07-05-2008, 12:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Willl Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest, WA Posts: 951	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start Very possible. On my 790, both 'pull' and 'hold' wires come directly from the "Time delay control module". Attached Thumbnails __________________ My PhotoBucket If you can read this, your 'Ignore List' isn't working.

07-05-2008, 12:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start When the solenoid went out , it actually "melted". It could have shorted something else at the samt time. I could run a Hot to the pull side of the solenoid on a toggle switch, but i hate to have to do that a tractor this new.

07-05-2008, 01:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start Thanks for your help. Do you know of any online sources for JD parts?

07-05-2008, 01:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start Willl, The Battery acts to be pretty much SHOT. Do you think that could be the problem even though i get the same results when jumping it off ?

07-05-2008, 02:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
KHUGHES New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start Do 2305's have Thermistors? If so where would they be?

07-05-2008, 02:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Willl Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest, WA Posts: 951	Re: Need Help.. 2305 won't Start The only JD stuff I bought on line was the tech and parts manuals, both from deere.com You bet, low battery voltage will do all kinds of weird things. Get a good battery in there. What do mean by "Thermistors" ? __________________ My PhotoBucket If you can read this, your 'Ignore List' isn't working.

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