John Deere Ballast Box

hoghead · 03-31-2001, 10:02 AM

Does anyone have the exact dimensions for a John Deere ballast box. I was going to buy one with my new 4300 but I thought I could make one myself. I have access to all the sheet metal I need and have a welder and shop.I see a picture of it in the loader manual with and without the extension, but I need exact dimensions.I figure some of you tractorheads out there will be able to help me.

Hoghead

DONOTDELETE · 03-31-2001, 10:43 AM

Hoghead,

Looked thru a bunch of JD info, and could find no linear dims. for the box,... wts.(loaded) only.

Unless you really want to "duplicate' their box though, I can't imagine that the exact dimensions need to be matched. (A rotary-mower is quite a different shape from a backhoe, but both serve as ballast quite well! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

With the idea in mind that lower/further-back = better "ballast" effect (within the 3-pt. lift capacity of the tractor), maybe a wider box would serve well. Something more like a box-scraper-with-4-sides?

Only disadvantage I can think of re. "wider" is a little more "rear-fender" room required for manuevering.

...just some thoughts [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] ,

Larry

hoghead · 03-31-2001, 10:57 AM

Larry
Right now I am using my bush hog ath-720 finish mower for ballast, but I wanted something a little more compact. It weighs over 500lbs.

Hoghead<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by hoghead on 03/31/01 11:00 AM (server time).</FONT></P>

jyoutz · 04-01-2001, 01:33 AM

Just measure your other implements to get the 3 point spacing. Most 3 points have about 26" between the lift arm pins. The toplink pin is situated anywhere from 18 -21" above the lift arm pin. I would make the box slightly less than the rear wheel width of your tractor and not over 24" in length. Make the depth of the box as deep as you can pick up with the 3 point, without dragging in the dirt (allowing for working on dirt piles and uneven ground). Well, that's my suggestion on how to do it. Or if these ideas don't work, you can always sneak down to your local JD dealer with a tape measure in hand.

RobS · 04-01-2001, 07:05 AM

HH, check out Mike Simpsons tractor hacker pages (search or check the FAQ on CTB) for a concrete weight. The one he made is very professional looking and you could adjust the volume of concrete to get whatever weight you want. I too considered the JD box, then thought of making one, and now I just use my box blade since it's so handy to have back there anyway [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

SteveV · 04-01-2001, 09:09 AM

Do you mean something like this (attachment)?? SteveV

SteveV · 04-01-2001, 09:19 AM

It started out pretty ugly (attachment).[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] SteveV

DONOTDELETE · 04-01-2001, 02:32 PM

No dimensions, but this is from the JD parts manual...

PC 2664-410, 420, 430 AND 460 LOADERS ATTACHMENTS

BALLAST BOX
KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. L REMARKS

1 M94072 PANEL 2 X
2 19H1900 CAP SCREW 12 X 5/16" X 3/4"
3 12H303 LOCK WASHER 12 X 5/16"
4 14H785 NUT 12 X 5/16"
5 AM107807 PANEL 1 X
6 M94071 PANEL 1 X
7 BW13661 EXTENSION 1 X
8 AR62150 QUICK LOCK PIN 3 X (SUB FOR CH11729)
9 CH11409 PIN 1 X
10 TY24479 SMV EMBLEM 1 X
11 BW14701 BOX 1

DONOTDELETE · 04-01-2001, 02:34 PM

Steve... a very very nice job! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

How much does your ballast weigh?

SteveV · 04-01-2001, 04:26 PM

It's a 16 in cube which figures to 355 pounds. This would be plus the steel work minus the tapers and roundings. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] SteveV

03-31-2001, 10:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
hoghead Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 73	John Deere Ballast Box Does anyone have the exact dimensions for a John Deere ballast box. I was going to buy one with my new 4300 but I thought I could make one myself. I have access to all the sheet metal I need and have a welder and shop.I see a picture of it in the loader manual with and without the extension, but I need exact dimensions.I figure some of you tractorheads out there will be able to help me. Hoghead

03-31-2001, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
DONOTDELETE New Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0	Re: John Deere Ballast Box Hoghead, Looked thru a bunch of JD info, and could find no linear dims. for the box,... wts.(loaded) only. Unless you really want to "duplicate' their box though, I can't imagine that the exact dimensions need to be matched. (A rotary-mower is quite a different shape from a backhoe, but both serve as ballast quite well! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif[/img] With the idea in mind that lower/further-back = better "ballast" effect (within the 3-pt. lift capacity of the tractor), maybe a wider box would serve well. Something more like a box-scraper-with-4-sides? Only disadvantage I can think of re. "wider" is a little more "rear-fender" room required for manuevering. ...just some thoughts [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] , Larry

03-31-2001, 10:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
hoghead Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 73	Re: John Deere Ballast Box Larry Right now I am using my bush hog ath-720 finish mower for ballast, but I wanted something a little more compact. It weighs over 500lbs. Hoghead<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by hoghead on 03/31/01 11:00 AM (server time).</FONT></P>

04-01-2001, 01:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
jyoutz Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edgewood, New Mexico Posts: 597	Re: John Deere Ballast Box Just measure your other implements to get the 3 point spacing. Most 3 points have about 26" between the lift arm pins. The toplink pin is situated anywhere from 18 -21" above the lift arm pin. I would make the box slightly less than the rear wheel width of your tractor and not over 24" in length. Make the depth of the box as deep as you can pick up with the 3 point, without dragging in the dirt (allowing for working on dirt piles and uneven ground). Well, that's my suggestion on how to do it. Or if these ideas don't work, you can always sneak down to your local JD dealer with a tape measure in hand.

04-01-2001, 07:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
RobS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 5,182	Re: John Deere Ballast Box HH, check out Mike Simpsons tractor hacker pages (search or check the FAQ on CTB) for a concrete weight. The one he made is very professional looking and you could adjust the volume of concrete to get whatever weight you want. I too considered the JD box, then thought of making one, and now I just use my box blade since it's so handy to have back there anyway [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

04-01-2001, 09:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
SteveV Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MA Posts: 219	Re: John Deere Ballast Box Do you mean something like this (attachment)?? SteveV Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2001, 09:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
SteveV Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MA Posts: 219	Re: John Deere Ballast Box It started out pretty ugly (attachment).[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] SteveV Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2001, 02:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
DONOTDELETE New Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0	Re: John Deere Ballast Box No dimensions, but this is from the JD parts manual... PC 2664-410, 420, 430 AND 460 LOADERS ATTACHMENTS BALLAST BOX KEY PART NO. PART NAME QTY SERIAL NO. L REMARKS 1 M94072 PANEL 2 X 2 19H1900 CAP SCREW 12 X 5/16" X 3/4" 3 12H303 LOCK WASHER 12 X 5/16" 4 14H785 NUT 12 X 5/16" 5 AM107807 PANEL 1 X 6 M94071 PANEL 1 X 7 BW13661 EXTENSION 1 X 8 AR62150 QUICK LOCK PIN 3 X (SUB FOR CH11729) 9 CH11409 PIN 1 X 10 TY24479 SMV EMBLEM 1 X 11 BW14701 BOX 1

04-01-2001, 02:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
DONOTDELETE New Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0	Re: John Deere Ballast Box Steve... a very very nice job! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] How much does your ballast weigh?

04-01-2001, 04:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
SteveV Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MA Posts: 219	Re: John Deere Ballast Box It's a 16 in cube which figures to 355 pounds. This would be plus the steel work minus the tapers and roundings. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] SteveV Attached Thumbnails

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