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    Default 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    I have a '08 5603 cab 12FR power reverser. I bought it used with about 800 hours last year. Its been flawless for about 100hrs.

    Just recently its developed an issue engaging the PTO. The lever is really hard to pull/push and get the PTO to engage. Its like the lever is binding but I think its more serious than that??? After I engage PTO once its easier to disengage and re-engage. I pulled the knob off the handle the other day it was so difficult to engage.

    IT doesn't seem to matter if in PTO or EPTO or RPM of engine or gear/neutral

    What should I look at?
    Hubert - DIY'er outskirts of suberbia (Anderson, SC) - '72 Ford tractor and a few attachments, handtools and a pickup truck avg joe.

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    Default Adjusting

    So I adjusted the cable end so the lever mechanism cams over easier. I guess the previous owner had the clutch tightened to the max; must have run a large cutter? I guess I'll see if it slips and may have to tighten it back up some???

    I assume with age you adjust taking up slack so it pulls more ???? Maybe not? Anyone ever had to adjust their PTO lever cable lenght?
    Hubert - DIY'er outskirts of suberbia (Anderson, SC) - '72 Ford tractor and a few attachments, handtools and a pickup truck avg joe.

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    I had to make an adjustment on a 5105 I had. When running cutter I noticed it slipping when under load. Initially thought it was cutter slip clutch. Tried a cutter with shear bolt with same results. Adjusted clutch engagement tension and problem solved. The manual gave instructions on how to adjust properly. Note this was not a pull knob engagement, but a lever. Possible is same issue/process just different form of engagement. I initially over tightened it and it was very difficult to engage.

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    Default Re: 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    I actually have some input on this. I own the identical tractor and had the same problem only worse. Last year was devastating here for drought and I never cut or baled any hay at all. First time to use it this year it would not engage pto at all. Called dealer and they told me because of lack of use, the forks that engage pto clutch was likely frozen due to rust. The mechanic told me to go underneath, fin the lever where it entered the case and using a wrench, put pressure on the lever and hit with a hammer to jar it loose. Then make sure you work that lever quite often just to keep that from happening again.

    I did as suggested, took more than just a tap and it broke free.

    Good luck and write back if more detail is needed.

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    Default Re: 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    Update....

    Yes, I learned to crawl underneath and tap on the lever mechanism. Mine engages ok with a hard tug usually but sticks engaged and I have to crawl underneath and tap to disengage it.

    The other day I was doing it and a blackish watery fluid started to seep out and dripped a few drips. I wonder if rain or wash down water drains down the case and wicks into the lever shaft hole????? Then the wet attracts crud and or corrodes some. I strayed some penetrant and worked the lever back and forth and it got a little better I think. But its hard to get any real lube on the mechanism.

    Anyone find a better solution than just working the lever back and forth.

    My neighbor has a newer 5101e and it has a longer lever in the cab to make it easier to engage. And the newer tractors (green painted drivetrain) I think are electric solenoid controlled PTO??
    Hubert - DIY'er outskirts of suberbia (Anderson, SC) - '72 Ford tractor and a few attachments, handtools and a pickup truck avg joe.

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    Default Re: 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    Look on the bottom of the bellhousing, you will see a plug there. Remove that plug and leave it out. This will allow water to escape that builds up in there and freezes pto linkage up due to rust. I have had some so badly froze the tractor needed to be split to free them up.

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    Default Re: 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    So is this the bolt to remove? Mine might be rusted cause its tight as heck.


    Still related to this PTO issue. Mine is whining now when I engage it like maybe a throw out bearing is going bad. Is that a related problem to them building up condensation and rusting? Did I adjust my lever too tight and wear the throwout mechanism excessively? If I unlock the lever and just hold it engaged it is quieter but I don't want the cl5101utch to slip if that is too loose.

    Did JD ever come up with a solution like maybe a vent bolt (an open bolt hole will just fill with dirt dobber nest). Maybe a plug with very small weep hole or some screen or other that allows it to breathe but not allow dirt dobbers to go up in case.

    What is a typical service cost for fixing the PTO engagement.

    Anybody install the longer lever like on the first 5101E's (black drivetrain).
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    Hubert - DIY'er outskirts of suberbia (Anderson, SC) - '72 Ford tractor and a few attachments, handtools and a pickup truck avg joe.

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    Default Re: 2008 5603 PTO hard to engage?

    I finally took the bolt out and look what was inside - 16oz of rusty crap water. Dang it dang it dang it.

    Take yer bolt out fella's
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    Hubert - DIY'er outskirts of suberbia (Anderson, SC) - '72 Ford tractor and a few attachments, handtools and a pickup truck avg joe.

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