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    Default M series transmission options

    What is the biggest advantages of the creeper gears with regard to use? And same question regarding the 32fx16b?

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    Creeper would be needed for a trencher or other equipment needed something that needs to move in terms of feet per minute rather than mile per hour these gears will probably all be well under 1mph top speed. On the 12x12 m8540/m9540 my manual quotes them at Creep
    1st 0.26 mph or 22 feet per minute
    2nd 0.33
    3rd 0.44
    4th 0.56
    5th 0.70
    6th 0.84

    Where as in range L
    1st 1.6 mph or 140 feet per minute
    2nd 2.1
    3rd 2.8
    4th 3.5
    5th 4.4
    6th 5.3
    These number are measured at the engines maximum speed
    1st in low is about 6 time faster than creep
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    Default Re: M series transmission options

    Quote Originally Posted by hotchkiss View Post
    What is the biggest advantages of the creeper gears with regard to use? And same question regarding the 32fx16b?
    I find the 32/16 feature useful when baling hay or when clipping my hilly pastures. It is a nice feature....just like all the other bells and whistles on the "M".
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    Default Re: M series transmission options

    Quote Originally Posted by xring100 View Post
    Creeper would be needed for a trencher or other equipment needed something that needs to move in terms of feet per minute rather than mile per hour these gears will probably all be well under 1mph top speed.
    Dave
    Or using a rototiller.

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    Default Re: M series transmission options

    Is the 32/16 also referred to as the powerReverser Plus transmission?

    I like the 32/16 but my dealer says the creeper cannot be ordered as an option with it. The ground speed charts i have, which were printed at the dealership, shows A1 at 1.18mph in both PowerReverser and PowerReverser Plus with the 18.4 R-30 R1 rear tires. This is at 2200 rpm. This is one of my hang ups with the JD M series as I would feel much better if i had at least a couple gears under 1 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickengrower View Post
    Is the 32/16 also referred to as the powerReverser Plus transmission?

    I like the 32/16 but my dealer says the creeper cannot be ordered as an option with it. The ground speed charts i have, which were printed at the dealership, shows A1 at 1.18mph in both PowerReverser and PowerReverser Plus with the 18.4 R-30 R1 rear tires. This is at 2200 rpm. This is one of my hang ups with the JD M series as I would feel much better if i had at least a couple gears under 1 mph.
    Seems that's what I remember too; can't get the creeper option with the Plus transmission. Although, I thought that the Plus option gives you a 20% change in speed - up and down - from the 16x16 PowerReverser. So, A1 wouldn't be the same with the Plus transmission..?

    Nonetheless, the real questions you should be asking yourself - how often; how important - is it to you that the tractor has a road speed of 24mph versus 20-21mph? 'Cause that's really the basic difference between a 16x16 with creeper option versus the 32x16 Plus transmission.

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    We just have the 16x16 trans. Initially the literature showed we could add the creeper later. It turns out this is not the case and we really could use it on the snowblower and rototiller. .

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