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    Default john deere to pull batwing mower

    what size tractor , smallest that would do job ,do i need to pull at least a 12 foot bat wing mower, i need hydrostatic type transmission-bad knees, also like loader attachment, need to drive tractor 15 miles to and from farm, cab would be nice, also have a suggested mower thanks

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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    If you want HST, then the JD's 4x20 series would be your choice in a new CUT and would be between 35-50 pto hp. If you want a rotary batwing mower, the smallest sizes I know are 15' and the 4x20 series is way too small. A 15' batwing mower weighs 5000 lbs or more. The larger 5000 series is still probably too small for a 15' batwing, unless the mowing is relatively easy. The 6000 series is more ideal. Neither the the 5000 or 6000 will have HST. The 4x20 series should be able to handle a 10' pull type mower.

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    If you have bad knees I would recommend the power reverser. You dont have to use the clutch to go from forward to reverse. Great for loader work and field work. I would go with at least a 75hp tractor for the 12ft mower and even that is on the small side I would think. What kind of stuff are you mowing (grass or brush)? Larger 5000 series would work for you I would think depending on what your mowing.
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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    Go look at a 4720. You can get a cab model with Hst tranny.

    I would only recommend a 10' cutter for this model. (You mentioned smallest).

    Otherwise, look at a 5525 cab model, you could handle a 12 footer that will fold up.

    Bigger yet is a 5603 that can handle a 15 footer.
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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    I have a HX15 batwing cutter and pull it with a 7210 JD. It handles it easily. A 6,000 series tractor would run that easy enough. I am not sure if a 5000 series would spin that or not.

    I have never seen a smaller batwing than a 15ft. I am pretty sure you can get a power shift, or an IVT(Infinately Variable Transmission) that would not need a clutch to operate. You can get a very nice cab with all the comforts of home, and Front wheel assist or 2wd.

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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    Hi:

    I think you want the biggest tractor you can afford but...

    Summer last year (2007) the dealer brought by a used 15' batwing mower for me to try with my 3720 cab. HP wise I was on the lower recommend end. The only thing that concerned me was the transport tongue weight of the batwing It was over that of the rating for the 3x20, and 4x20 series. Operating tongue weight was under the 500+lb limit.

    I mowed about 5 acres with it and it worked fine. the 3720 had plenty of power and I was mowing 3-4mph most of the time and up to 5 at times. The tractor had no problem pulling it, turning, etc. even sideways on a slight slope. Manuevering the best in tight spots was a little bit of a chore. I ended up deciding it was too big for my lot and was beyond my needs... (It was). I can't remember if I used 4wd on the small slope I had but I didn't spin/dig at all.

    Anyway, I would tend to think, based on my experience any of the 4x20 series would be fine.
    I was running maybe 5600lbs when I was using it with my 3720 cab (3600 + 900lbs in the tires(Large R4's) + 1100lbs for the loader frame (no bucket).

    Note that this is a Finish mower. If you were rough cutting it would take much more hp.
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    Two more pics. And No, I wasn't running the 72" MMM while I was using the FM1015R.

    It was pretty cool to try it out. I would have gotten it about 1/2 price.

    Also, the new 4720's are 66hp and I think 58 at the PTO. They boosted them this year.

    I was running with 35 PTOhp and hardly had to slow down with 2 weeks growth.
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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    15' batwing? I would look into the 6000' series with the IVT transmission.

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    Default Re: john deere to pull batwing mower

    It depends on what kind of mower you are looking at. Orlo has pic of a batwing finish mower made by Frontier. Others are talking about batwing rough cut mowers. JC
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