increasing Lift Cap

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robert23239

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I have read so many good things here about increasing pressure to increase the lift cap on the deere 790. I have a deere 955 and which is rate for a little over 900 lbs and had 900 lbs on it this weekend and it failed to lift it.
I was wondering if I could do close to the same on my 955 as done on the 790. Its great working with these tractors but I just need to lift this piece of equipment.

Thanks Robert
 
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Have you plugged in a guage to see what your system pressure is yet?

That would be the first thing you need to know, then check this against the
design specifications.




Steve
 
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Yup, make a gauge setup and check it first...then decide from there.
 
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I have read so many good things here about increasing pressure to increase the lift cap on the deere 790. I have a deere 955 and which is rate for a little over 900 lbs and had 900 lbs on it this weekend and it failed to lift it.
I was wondering if I could do close to the same on my 955 as done on the 790. Its great working with these tractors but I just need to lift this piece of equipment.

Thanks Robert

Increase the speed of the engine. Adjust the relief valve. Replace the hydraulic pump with a larger one. Replace the lift cylinders with larger ones.
 
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Increase the speed of the engine. Adjust the relief valve. Replace the hydraulic pump with a larger one. Replace the lift cylinders with larger ones.

Increase speed of the engine -- this would only increase lift speed?

Adjust relief valve -- yes, this would increase lift capacity, but increasing the pressure above the spec might over stress components in the system, both hydraulic, and mechanical (lift arms, etc).

Replace the hydraulic pump with a larger one: again, this should only increase lift speed.

Replace life cylinders with larger ones -- this could over stress the mechanical parts, and result in slower lift speeds (if that matters; replacing the pump with a larger one can counter that).

Are we talking about FEL or 3PH lift capacity here?

Also, if talking 3PH, aren't the lift cylinders in most tractors integral to the transaxle case? That would make them hard to replace with something else.

I'd love to increase the 3PH lift capacity of my Kubota B7100HST, which has one of the most anemic 3PH's I've seen (400 lbs).

Regards,
Jay
 
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If we are talking cylinders here. you do realize that the pump is not putting out full pressure at all times. If he is lifting an empty bucket, he is probably only using less than 1000 lbs. You can only achieve the max pump pressure when you are at the max load the system was designed far,. For instance, If the tractor has a lift capacity of 1800 lbs. at 2500 psi, the relief is probably set at around 1800 to 2000 psi. If you lift half a bucket, I don't think you will see 2500 psi. Put a gage on your lift cylinders, and see what happens in different situations. My PT, say at half throttle, may raise the bucket up one foot. If I increase rpm, it starts to lift more for whatever reason . Last year, I had to change out my lift pump, because it could not raise half a load. After I installed the new pump, the max load went right up like it should. I was either losing pressure, or volume, or both. You will not get max pressure or volume at low rpm. If you load it up, then you may see anything up to max pressure.

He might also have some leaky cylinders, or a pump that is not putting out max capacity.

New recommendations.

1 Check psi and GPM on your pump. Check pump psi with gage. Hydraulic shop can check GPM.
2 Adjust relief as you desire.
3 Larger cyl will definitely give you more power. You may have to add more counter weight.
4 Take the bucket off, add a lifting attachment. That will save about 150 to 200 lbs

If talking 3PH, forget what I said about the cyl. The first two only.
 
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I have read so many good things here about increasing pressure to increase the lift cap on the deere 790. I have a deere 955 and which is rate for a little over 900 lbs and had 900 lbs on it this weekend and it failed to lift it.
I was wondering if I could do close to the same on my 955 as done on the 790. Its great working with these tractors but I just need to lift this piece of equipment.

Robert, I think you are talking about the 3-pt lift cap here, not the loader.

The 955 tractor actually has lower 3-pt lift cap vs. its 70A FEL. This deluxe
tractor has a hyd system spec of about 2500psi, which is the high end for
CUTs, and more than the JD basic tractors. Check the system pressure, as
suggested, and if you want to increase it, the relief valve is under the seat.
 
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Thanks for all of your help and ideas, I was talking about lifting at the 3 point hitch. After using the piece equipment I found out it is about 1100 pounds not 900. It never did lift even when I did increase the RPM. I did take about 300 pounds off and it lifted it fine.

So the pressure may be a little low but it still does lift a lot.

Don't get me wrong I am happy with the 955. Shifting into 4 wheel drive on the run is a great tool. I just plowed up a couple acres and it did a great job.

Thanks again for all of your help and ideas.

Robert
 

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