My JD dealer experience

[GreatWhitehunter]

Originally Posted by turbo36

What exactly was illegal here?

I was thinking the exact same thing. I really don't see any major issue with any of the OP's expericance. GS is a large dealership and moves alot of stock. There are tons of threads here about folks who bought too small and then upgraded. Smaller dealers do tend to push what they have on there lots. I think they get this car dealer mentality sometimes.

Matt

[mattman]

Well clue us in as to what and how this happened. If it was some kind of honest mistake then it can be easily explained.

[scoutcub]

I think we'd all be interested in a explanation. Seems like a lot of damning evidence out there, just as a casual observer. And, will all 3 flags be explained?

Of course, there are miscommunications and misinterpretations, but there are also dealers out there that are less than scrupulous. I'm not saying anyone is guilty or innocent, just buyer beware......

[OCD]

I, of course, feel I must update on this. I do not want to pursue a mud-slinging contest or a "he said, she said". I would much rather clear the air and let my experience be known. I have re-read my original post, and there is some emotion there, but feel the story is accurate...... from my perspective. There are two sides (at least) to every story. I do not think anything "illegal" was ever being done. I was just unhappy with some of the encounters.

gamble77 was kind enough to reply to me personally to explain things from the Greensouth perspective. I do not want to speak for him, but he did explain that on the first machine I looked at that I was having a hard time getting the history on was a used machine that was in Florida and sold to a customer in a GA store. That customer realized he wanted a larger tractor and quickly upgraded after purchasing it with a loader and using it for a month or so. The apparent confusion in locating it in the system was a paperwork issue and getting paperwork "final" and then into the system. (The first owner was a "rental", the second was a private individual. That could, I imagine, create some paperwork headaches). In response to my tractor, apparently the individual I purchased it from had already traded it on a new machine, but was able to still sell privately if he could, and he did. Greensouth had their listing, as they thought it was theirs and there was the paperwork delay before it was realized that it was no longer theirs, as the original owner had opted out of the trade and repurchased it to sell to me. So, it was apparently at some point over the past couple weeks Greensouth's machine to advertise and try to sell. I will add that is considerate of Greensouth to allow the person trading to "buy back" his trade to sell privately if he gets a buyer. Recall the prior post about is a PO legally binding. So, Greensouth was legitimately listing the tractor, just delays in getting listings updated. I would not want the job of tracking 15-20 dealers used inventory and keeping it "real time" up to date, but then again with modern technology we expect things to be instantaneous. I will also add that throughout the course of my shopping I called gamble77 several times and he was helpful and straight forward each conversation.

I am editing this 45 min after originally posted. Do not want to drag things out.
The reasons I was unhappy with the experience are in original post.
But, I got my tractor that I am happy with, the other individual got his new deere, and greensouth sold a new deere. So we all win, maybe some sore feelings in there, but we all win.

I hope this clarifies some things. I do not mean to offend, but do mean to report my experience, and have tried to with as little bias as I can.

[OCD]

I, of course, feel I must update on this. I do not want to pursue a mud-slinging contest or a "he said, she said". I would much rather clear the air and let my experience be known. I have re-read my original post, and there is some emotion there, but feel the story is accurate...... from my perspective. There are two sides (at least) to every story. I do not think anything "illegal" was ever being done. I was just unhappy with some of the encounters.

gamble77 was kind enough to reply to me personally to explain things from the Greensouth perspective. I do not want to speak for him, but he did explain that on the first machine I looked at that I was having a hard time getting the history on was a used machine that was in Florida and sold to a customer in a GA store. That customer realized he wanted a larger tractor and quickly upgraded after purchasing with a loader and using for a month or so. The apparent confusion in locating it in the system was a paperwork issue and getting paperwork "final" and then into the system. (The first owner was a "rental", the second was a private individual. That could, I imagine, create some paperwork headaches). In response to my tractor, apparently the individual I purchased it from had already traded it on a new machine, but was able to still sell privately if he could, and he did. Greensouth had their listing, as they thought it was theirs and there was the paperwork delay before it was realized that it was no longer theirs, as the original owner had opted out of the trade and repurchased it to sell to me. So, it was apparently at some point over the past couple weeks Greensouth's machine to advertise and try to sell. I will add that is considerate of Greensouth to allow the person trading to "buy back" his trade to sell privately if he gets a buyer. Recall the prior post about is a PO legally binding. So, Greensouth was legitimately listing the tractor, just delays in getting listings updated. I would not want the job of tracking 15-20 dealers used inventory and keeping it "real time" up to date, but then again with modern technology we expect things to be instantaneous. I will also add that throughout the course of my shopping I called gamble77 several times and he was helpful and straight forward each conversation.

I am editing this 45 min after originally posted. Do not want to drag things out, and 45 minutes of shut eye can help, too.
The reasons I was unhappy with the experience are in original post.
But, I got my tractor that I am happy with, the other individual got his new deere, and greensouth sold a new deere. So we all win, maybe some sore feelings in there, but we all win.

I hope this clarifies some things. I do not mean to offend, but do mean to report my experience, and have tried to with as little bias as I can.

[gamble77]

No harm - no foul. The tractor you ended up purchasing was actually traded in to us and then sold back to the person you purchased it from a few days later...so it was at one point actually legally our tractor (no matter if it was ever on the yard or not).

I hope everything is clear now and if we can ever do anything to help please don't hesitate to call me. Enjoy your Deere!

[gamble77]

No harm - no foul. The tractor you ended up purchasing was actually traded in to us and then sold back to the person you purchased it from a few days later...so it was at one point actually legally our tractor (no matter if it was ever on the yard or not).

I hope everything is clear now and if we can ever do anything to help please don't hesitate to call me. Enjoy your Deere!

[OCD]

Agree with gamble77. No harm done. Things worked out fine in the end. Just some frustration gettting to the end. Glad I slept before the original post, maybe should have slept 2 nights . Thought about it more last night and I will likely visit greensouth for any service issues or other. Not gonna let a couple bad experiences rule them out.

If anyone has questions regarding this, please feel free to PM me.
Issue may be considered resolved and closed in my book.

[OCD]

Agree with gamble77. No harm done. Things worked out fine in the end. Just some frustration gettting to the end. Glad I slept before the original post, maybe should have slept 2 nights . Thought about it more last night and I will likely visit greensouth for any service issues or other. Not gonna let a couple bad experiences rule them out.

If anyone has questions regarding this, please feel free to PM me.
Issue may be considered resolved and closed in my book.

[EddieWalker]

Interesting thread. I really appreciate hearing both sides to it and the outcome.

Thanks for posting it.

Eddie