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    Default JD 420

    I'm going to look at a John Deere 420 on Saturday. 20HP Onan, FEL (bucket and pallet forks), 3pth, PTO, 60" mowing deck, 48" tiller, wheel weights, and fluid filled bar tires on the back. $6900 CDN.

    It has "about 1000" hrs on it but the hour counter is broken, of course. It looks okay in pictures...a little rust here and there, a few scratches, but not abused. He says it doesn't use any oil and the hydraulics all work. He's had it for about four years and says he's never had a problem.

    I've checked with a JD mechanic and he says parts are pretty easy to get.

    I have a couple of questions.

    First is the price. Is that about right? Keep in mind that things tend to cost a little more here in Canada.

    Are there any known issues with this model that I should look out for?

    What's a small scraper blade worth for the back?

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    Default Re: JD 420

    I can't claim any expertise on the 420. I've operated them and they seem to be a smooth runner with the hydraulic tranny and seem to be a good, solid tractor. Many think it is the best for its time.

    Probably 20 year old tractor? Ask the JD mechanic to run the serial number for any Deere history stored over the years.

    I'd be cautious, and for my money I'd go after the 455 which is a diesel. I'm thinking the Onan is gas, and I've not heard favorable stories about Onan engines. Just don't know.

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    Default Re: JD 420

    The 420 is a good unit and it is gas. Onan parts can be had, but I understand they are pricey. I had a 318 with an Onan that was trouble free. However, I've heard that the life expectancy of the engine was a little over a 1000 hours with many going well beyond that.

    A rear blade should only run you a couple hundred dollars. If you're planning on using all the goodies, might you desire a bigger machine?
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    Default Re: JD 420

    I'd be cautious, and for my money I'd go after the 455 which is a diesel. I'm thinking the Onan is gas, and I've not heard favorable stories about Onan engines. Just don't know.
    There are many owners out there with good things to say about Onans. I'm one of them. They are workhorses. Tons of torque. Properly cared for, they can go 2000 hours before needing major work.
    Parts prices aren't any different than other brands.
    Parts through Onan are definitely cheaper than going through JD though.

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    Default Re: JD 420

    I would have some reservations about this purchase. I have been looking myself for a low hour 318 just as a "toy" and there are not many around. The 420 had a great reputation as one of the best JD lawn and garden tractors of all time. The frame and components are good with good care for many thousand hours. I personally love Onan engines. Over the years, my dad (and I) have had several Gravely lawn and garden tractors. We still have an 8193KT (Kohler) twin engine, but prior to that we had an 8179 with an Onan. I love the sound and power of a good running Onan engine. The problem is that not every Onan is "good running". These were expensive, high end engines that generally ended up on high end mowers and tractors. Our Gravely dealer felt that the Onan was the most troublesome engine Gravely put on its tractors from his service perspective so that is worth noting. I have seen these engines last over 2000 hours, but they tend to burn oil with higher hours. I have heard all though some parts are available, they are not plentiful and will likely be quite expensive. Though I still desire them, I would second guess going with a higher hours 420 with this engine. Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: JD 420

    I bought my 1983-420 about two years ago with 54 front blade & 60" deck for $1800. I needed some work, but has been a workhorse! I've added a Ruegg 3-pt, rear hydraulics & weights.

    The rear PTO would probably cost around $1000 for one, loader at least $2000, not sure on the tiller price. Overall, the $6900 may be on the high side (Am. $$$), but would depend on condition. Onans are expensive to work on, but what isn't? And personally, I wouldn't want a diesel the way I use mine! ~~ grnspot110

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    Default Re: JD 420

    First, thanks for the advice. I am going to be extra-cautious now, for sure.

    GLC24: I'm less afraid of the Onan engine after talking to a couple of guys around here. It turns out that I have the proper connections for getting parts at a reasonable price and can get expert help installing them because I know where the beer store is. Of course that's easy right now when it's theoretical. One of the guys is coming with me on Saturday though, so he should be able to give me a hint about the engine.

    I'd love a larger machine, K7LN, but if anything I would be better off with smaller. I'm already using an LA105 for towing duties it was never meant for simply because of its size (I know people like to slam them, but I'm impressed with that little machine). If somebody were to make a powerful unit with an FEL and 3pth that would fit through a 36" gate, I'd do the dance of joy. I can generally borrow something bigger if I need it.

    My big problem right now is that I have to landscape my own yard over the next few years and really need a small loader to do it with. Bigger just doesn't fit between the trees and sheds. Whatever I end up with will end up doing double duty in my landscape carpentry business (everything does...even the dog) though, which also requires a small machine.

    I'd love a 455, beenthere, but they run another couple of thousand up here with a loader. I'm already stretching the budget with this. I've been debt-free for a while now, and I want to keep it that way. This one is a 1990 model, so from what I understand most of the bugs had been worked out by then. It is still 20 years old though.

    One thing I'll be looking for is signs of heavy commercial use. The seller is just a large property kind of owner who used it mostly as a lawnmower, at least that's what he tells me, but it had at least one owner before him.

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    Default Re: JD 420

    I think the price is way high myself also, it would depend on the overall condition. Engine questions aside, what about the transmission etc. Less than 2k is moer along what I would think but then again if it is in Mint condition I would think higher. List price in the early 90's was 9k on the base unit and the thing is now 20 years old

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    Default Re: JD 420

    Your list price in the US might have been 9K ctlguy, but it was considerably more up here. Our dollar was worth a lot less than yours back then (I think about 80 cents), and Canadian prices have traditionally been higher anyway, for political/economic reasons I won't get into here.

    Anyway, that puts original base price here at around $11K or $12K (CDN), I think, with the same kind of difference on the attachments.

    Of course our dollar is pretty much at par with yours now, but that's generally not reflected in the value of used equipment. A 318 with 1500 hours and nothing but a mower on it sold about a week ago (from a dealership not far from here) for $3200. Welcome to my bitter reality.

    All that being said though, I think the price is a little steep too. I don't absolutely need a tractor before spring, either, so I can pass it up or wait for the price to come down. I'll decide on that tomorrow when I see it.

    On the other side of things, garden tractors with loaders are rare around here, and prices start to creep back up as gardening season nears. I also need to start moving dirt around my yard as soon as it thaws, so I really want to find one before the snow melts in April.

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    Default Re: JD 420

    Okay, I bought it for $6K (CDN) and he's going to drop it off the next time his daughter comes to town to play ringette. I'll give him a cheque then.

    It's in decent shape, everything works (at least so far) and he seems like a decent guy.

    As my friend said, "You spend more than that on cigarettes and beer, and he's just trying to make it." That's a pretty good point. I mean, I don't actually spend that much on cigarettes and beer, but only because I'm short on time.

    My friend also doubts it has 1000 hours on it. Something to do with paint in the engine bay? Apparently the high-hour ones suffer some paint fading from the heat or something. I didn't really catch that part, one of those whispered things, but he's looked at a lot more tractors than I have. I'll take his word for it, since he has nothing to gain or lose here.

    So now I have to clean out the garage to make room.

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