448 hoe teeth re-visit

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Cidertom

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Had a small "honey do". Remove 5 75+' sequoia trees from behind the house. Bid for bringing cat out and removing was $1200. So 4520 and the 448 hoe got the job. Dug around the roots, attached cable and tractor pulled them over. The root wads in pix are around 8-10 feet across. The trees are into the stuff that we call mud-stone it looks like sandstone, but it disintergrates when exposed to the weather.

Went through 8 teeth this weekend. I gave up on hard facing, they were not lasting long enough to make it worthwhile. I lost most, but the attached photo is typical of those I could find. Note the torn metal. (Sorry for the poor image) I am heat peening them on, but the sides are distorting enough that they drop off any way.

Trip to dealer: only tooth they list. Anyone know of heavier teeth that are this small?
 

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Holy moly!! Them are sure big 'ums! Whatcha gonna do with 'em now?

I can see renting a JD 200 excavator in your future -- with some of that $1,200 you saved on the dozer rental.

My dealer gave me some heavier teeth that fit on a Bobcat attachment. The shank size is the same (inside) but the metal construction is heavier.

You might do some checking with your dealer and see if they have some teeth that are heavier construction that can be adapted to fit your hoe bucket.

Akfish
 
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Man, it's a shame something that old has to come down.
 
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The teeth in your pic are the HD teeth. The light duty teeth are about half the size. I recently posted about a similar issue with the shanks snapping. I have since replaced the original shanks and haven't had an issue.

Matt T.:D
 
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The trees had to come down. They were only about 40-45 years old. But they were undermining and heaving the foundation. Two tree specialists looked at them and came to the conclusion that just cutting the roots under the house would leave them too unstable, so they had to go. The wife has now decided that the area would make a great outdoor entertaining area and I get to do that as well.

The trees appear to have no market value. :(


I will be taking some lenghts to a fellow Vol Firefighter and mill for decorative wood, and the rest will be fire place food a 18 mo from now.

AK, I will find a bobcat dealer and check. My local JD only has JD

GWh: I remember the thread, I have not had prob with shank, just the teeth.

I pulled them down over a hunk of log which cause them to pull up the wad. Now I just have to knock enough rock out of the roots to allow me to cut them up where the FEL will be able to carry them.
 
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Cidertom said:
Greetings:
Had a small "honey do". Remove 5 75+' sequoia trees from behind the Note the torn metal. (Sorry for the poor image) I am heat peening them on, but the sides are distorting enough that they drop off any way.

Why not weld them on??
 
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Seon said:
Why not weld them on??

Not certain I want to screw with the shanks. Welding heat there could cause brittleness. Then grind off and replace... Not a bad idea, just never having done that, I am hesitant to go where no one has gone before. All equipment I have ever worked on has either been peened or pinned.
 
 
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