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    Default Keeping air in small front tires

    I ran the left front tire off the rim again. Did it when the tractor was nearly new. Got it back on and put Slime in both fronts then.

    The problem is that these small front tires (typical on 2305, 2210, 2205, 4010, etc.) don't seem to hold air too well. Just before going out today, I checked both of them. The right front was down to 10! The left front that was just aired up after being remounted a couple days ago and aired to 25 was down to about 17. I aired both of them up to around 22-25 to have some leeway on the required 20 for FEL work.

    How do you keep air in these? The rears (liquid mostly) are no problem.

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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Ralph

    You Green boys aren't alone. The Orange BXs have the same issue. Ugh!!
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Manufacturers don't mount tires tubeless because it is better, they do it because they can, and it is cheaper.
    Get over the notion that tractor tires should be tubeless and get tubes installed, or do it yourself. Problem solved.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Quote Originally Posted by RalphVa View Post
    I ran the left front tire off the rim again. Did it when the tractor was nearly new. Got it back on and put Slime in both fronts then.

    The problem is that these small front tires (typical on 2305, 2210, 2205, 4010, etc.) don't seem to hold air too well.......

    How do you keep air in these?
    You can put tubes in them, but I've found that some of the imported tubes are no better at holding air. Some of the leaks have been extremely small and often around a metal stem.

    You can do a bubble test on the tires and it should give you an idea where the leaks are. Since you have torn the tire off the rim, I'd tear the assembly down, clean it and do an inspection of the rim and the tire. The bead area should be clean and smooth. You might also check the valve stems too. Any small defect will give you problems.

    A tubeless assembly shouldn't give you any problems if everything is up to par. I'd also tend to stay away from using Slime. I've had no experience with it, but it could prevent a good seal. If the bead doesn't seal well, a very light coat of silicone sealer could be used. I'm also assuming that you don't have old dry rotted tires.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Ralph, I'd replace the valve cores on both front tires as a start...the core (inside), not the stem. They do wear out.
    Also, cold weather tends to make tires lose pressure. The smaller volume in the front tires makes it more noticable.
    For you folks who use your loaders...make sure you increase the pressure in those front tires when you're using the loader. There's a lot of weight on those fronts and it's easy to run them right off the rims. If you see the sidewalls bulging out at the lower part of the tires, you need to up the pressure.
    This includes those of you who (like me) are using the loader to move snow.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Quote Originally Posted by RickB View Post
    Manufacturers don't mount tires tubeless because it is better, they do it because they can, and it is cheaper.
    Get over the notion that tractor tires should be tubeless and get tubes installed, or do it yourself. Problem solved.
    I agree. That's what I did on my X748SE 2 years ago. No problems since.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Slime will work fine. I have a large Snap-on tools box with pneumatic tubeless "rear" tires. They were always going flat over time. A bit of Slime and they stay up.

    I took each tire/wheel combo off, bled the air out, put some Slime in, filled with air, and bounced the thing around to spread the stuff around. I put them back on the toolbox and have not added any air in months.
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    More slime and use higher pressures. ?? Then Tube??

    Consider getting an inexpensive [$10.00] 12 volt air compressor that rides on the tractor.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    I pinched one of my fronts. It is now booted and tubed and weaker than before. I recently dinged the rim on the same tire. I'd really like to see a decent 10 wide tire on the 3000-20's rather than the skinny 8's.
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    Default Re: Keeping air in small front tires

    Quote Originally Posted by RickB View Post
    Manufacturers don't mount tires tubeless because it is better, they do it because they can, and it is cheaper.
    Get over the notion that tractor tires should be tubeless and get tubes installed, or do it yourself. Problem solved.
    Said it better than I didn't in another post but people still disagreed about them saving money.

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