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    Default First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    The manual says:

    Every 400 Hours
    Change engine oil and filter (if John Deere PLUS-50 is
    used).
    Change transmission oil and filter.
    Clean transmission suction screen.
    Replace fuel filter.

    That seems like a long time for the first change. Any comments?

    JPC

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    Quote Originally Posted by jcalla View Post
    The manual says:

    Every 400 Hours
    Change engine oil and filter (if John Deere PLUS-50 is
    used).
    Change transmission oil and filter.
    Clean transmission suction screen.
    Replace fuel filter.

    That seems like a long time for the first change. Any comments?

    JPC
    Wow! Are you sure that's not after the "break-in" change at 50 to 100 hours?
    I'm "going green" - my "4-wheeler" is a John Deere 4600 HST!

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    John Deere does specify extended oil change intervals when using PLUS-50 oil and John Deere filters. Read more at the link below.

    https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/d...15W40_0W40.htm

    However, I always change oils and filters at first 50 hrs on new tractors and then annually after that as I only put 100 to 150 hrs a year on any tractor.

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside360 View Post
    However, I always change oils and filters at first 50 hrs on new tractors and then annually after that as I only put 100 to 150 hrs a year on any tractor.
    +1 That's what I would consider a good maintenance schedule - and document it well just in case of the unlikely problem.
    "Look at Him at Gethsemane, sweating as it were great drops of blood; look at Him on the cross, crucified between two thieves; hear that piercing cry, "Father, Father, forgive them, they know not what they do." And as you look into that face, as you look into those wounds on His feet or His hands, will you say He has not the power to save you? Will you say He has not the power so redeem you?" D.L. Moody

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    The Hydraulic/ transmission oil used in the 4720, 4520, 4320 is Low viscocity Hy guard (J20C) ONLY!! 9.6 gal with ehydro, 10.2 with power reverser. 400hr change interval

    Only the ENGINE uses the Plus 50 oil
    Use of Plus 50 in the transmission could damage it due to it's higher viscosity.
    Never put J20C in the engine!

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    Platinum Member Red Horse's Avatar
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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside360 View Post
    John Deere does specify extended oil change intervals when using PLUS-50 oil and John Deere filters. Read more at the link below.

    https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/d...15W40_0W40.htm

    However, I always change oils and filters at first 50 hrs on new tractors and then annually after that as I only put 100 to 150 hrs a year on any tractor.
    10-4 on the annual change- that is what I have done on my 3320 which I bought new. I recently bought a 4720 with 200 hrs on it. Nothing had been done to it so I changed the engine oil. The hydraulic filter looks rusty so I'm thinking I'll just change that. Online a deere filter is over 50 bucks! I can't find a matching Fram or Baldwin no. Anyone use anything else other than a Deere filter?

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    Veteran Member sunnyside360's Avatar
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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Horse View Post
    Anyone use anything else other than a Deere filter?
    I use 100% Deere oil and filters --- only do engine once a year. John Deere has a complete kit for filters on the 3x20 and 4x20 series, so you can save a little there. Also, the local Deere dealer runs a 10% discount sale every spring and there is a little more saving. Not sure if that 10% discount is a Deere or a dealer thing.

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    I just did my 4300 at 500 hours as that's what the manual called for. Not much metal in the screen to my relief, I have some photos here:
    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/j...trans-oil.html

    I agree with sunnyside360, use 100% JD parts and fluids. May cost a bit more, but never a worry about quality. My dealer has a 12% parts sale going on thru Feb.
    Sam
    JD 4300 HST with FEL, bush hog, rear mower, tiller, row hipper, cultivator, post hole digger, blade, and a wish list of more.

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    I don't compromise on the quality of Deere's filters. Especially when it comes to the hydraulic system. As important as they are, I just run genuine OEM and forget the price. It is worth the piece of mind to me.

    A lot of Deere dealers run the 12% discount around here this time of year.
    2011 John Deere 4520 Cab, Deere 673 Tiller, Frontier RB2184H 84" Hydraulic Rear Blade, Howse 60" Mower, 400CX loader, weights, front fenders, air seat, rear wiper, beacon light, & mirrors.

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    Default Re: First Hydraulic/Trans Oil Change 4720

    Quote Originally Posted by dconine View Post
    I don't compromise on the quality of Deere's filters. Especially when it comes to the hydraulic system. As important as they are, I just run genuine OEM and forget the price. It is worth the piece of mind to me.

    A lot of Deere dealers run the 12% discount around here this time of year.
    I'm sure you guys are right-for the number of times you change it not worth it-just shocked at the price on the Hyd filter. Just for yucks I did a cross reference on the oil filter. A Fram through Auto Palace was actually MORE expensive than the Deere plus it wasn't a stock item and would have to be ordered.

    And yes my dealer also has the sales promotion during "Deere days" in the spring.

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