4400 won't start/turnovr after stalling - HELP!!!

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jstoppok

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4400 won\'t start/turnovr after stalling - HELP!!!

HELP - My rented 4400 stalled while I was tilling - Operator (me) attacked by hornets and bailed after turning throttle down and stopping. It then proceeded to stall and I didn't return for 5 minutes. The key was on and the PTO engaged. I was able to disengage the PTO but now the engine won't even turn over. HELP PLEASE The rental place is closed until Monday!!
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It then proceeded to stall and I didn't return for 5 minutes. The key was on and the PTO engaged )</font>

My first asumption is that it stalled, because when you got off the seat you opened a safety switch, and the battery went dead because the key was left on.
Check battery and connections. The PTO you have disengaged, so that shoudn't be an issue.
 
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Re: 4400 won\'t start/turnovr after stalling - HELP!!!

Thanks for the quick response. I was thinking that because the lights and gages are wrking that the Battery was o.k. But now that you mentionit i think I've burnt myself by that thought before. Replacing starters because of a battery problem. I will give it a tryafter the swelling goes down. Thanks again!
 
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Throw a set of jumper cables on her, and see if she fires up !!
 
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Re: 4400 won\'t start/turnovr after stalling - HELP!!!

Tried the jumpers and still nothing. Lights don't even dim when you turn the key. Could it be some fuse or other inter-lock safety thing I don't know about? The PTO dash light is out but it does not spin freely. Only about a quarter turn before a positive metal on metal stop.
 
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Seems like maybe the PTO lever is in a disenaged position but the PTO itself may not be disengaged. I guess if it were me in this situation, I would put the tractor in neutral and try to move it, most likely by putting a chain on it to my truck and giving that tractor a little tug. It might be just enough movement, to allow the gears to release.
Now if this is a hydro tractor, the above may or may not work. I am still learning about hydro's.
 
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Re: 4400 won\'t start/turnovr after stalling - HELP!!!

Just got done checking all fuses. Still won't crank. I agree with giving it a little tug to see if anything "breaks" free. I take it from your response the PTO should spin freely when disengaged. It will have to wait until tomorrow though. Thanks again for your help.
 
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If it's a gear drive, put it in neutral. And no, the PTO won't spin freely when disengaged.
 
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I would say it is something being over looked.
Step back and recheck everything.
Neutral
PTO off
Brake on
In seat?
Check switch under seat, maybe broke when fast exit!
 
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Is this a manual? Is your "shuttle" (forward, neutral, reverse) lever in neutral? This one tripped me up once... even if trans is in neutral, that reverser lever has to be in neutral also.

Bob
 
 
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