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  1. #1

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    JD 2210

    Default 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    Well I had a heck of a fun time in the garage this past weekend. I was working on getting my 3 pt snow thrower all ready to go for the winter. I bought it used so it needed a little TLC. A bit of rust removal, repainting, lubricating, and a new chute-rotating cable did the trick. After seeing how long the 2210 was with both the loader and snow thrower, I decided to leave off the loader, and just put some front weights on it instead. This is where It got interesting.

    The integral front weight bracket on the 2210 can accommodate up to 5 weights. As it turns out, with the hood guard on, you can only put on 4 weights. The bolts that hold the hood guard interfere with the weights.

    Well, this left me with a few options, leave the hood guard in place, and only put on 4 weights, or take it off and put on 5 weights, or change everything to make it work. I chose the latter, but I'll get to that in a second.

    First of all in order to get the weights to fit at all, they needed to be touched up with the grinder. There is way too much casting flash on the weights to allow the restraining rod to fit at all. (BTW, I tried to find a P/N for the rod, but couldn't. I got lucky with the one I got with the weights. It was from an old 650 and it fits perfectly.)

    After getting the weights to fit better, I then tackled the problem with the hood guard. To start with, my hood guard did not fit correctly. Not even close. The OUTSIDE dimensions of the hood guard tabs were at all most " less than the INSIDE dimensions of the (tractor) mounting plates. That meant that both the tabs and/or the mounting plates were bending significantly. In order to remove the pins from the hood guard, I had to tighten the bolts, remove the (jammed) spring clips then loosen the bolts to remove the pins. This was not acceptable. I thought about going back to JD for the solution, but I figured that would be a useless if not time consuming endeavor. My second option was to move the mounting tabs on the hood guard. So out came the grinder again.

    To make a long story short, I re-welded the mounting tabs so they are now on the outside of the mounting bracket. This allows the 5 weights to fit with ease. To allow the loader arms to clear, I did have to swap the bolt and pin positions to make this work. I bought new bolts because the upper holes are round and not suitable for the original carriage heads. I also had to bevel the leading edge of the hood guard tabs to give the loader arms more clearance. In retrospect, if the hood guard fit correctly in the first place I could have done the pin/bolt swap in the first place. Though this still may have not given enough clearance for the weights. All in all I'm happy with the results, my hood guard fits absolutely perfectly now, and I'll never have to mess with it again.

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  2. #2

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    JD 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    Here's a front view of the hood guard, after the modification
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  3. #3
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    Indiana NW of Fort Wayne
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    John Deere 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    Hey Bill,

    I ran into the same problem. The pivot bolts on the hood guard interfere wiht adding the fifth weight. My old 445 had a front weight extention that allowed 9 weights to be added to the front. The 2210 owners manual discusses this option, but JD parts can't find such a thing. Must be a typo. I kept the old extension in hopes of modifying it for use on the 2210, but things are quite a bit different up front.

    I haven't looked at it much more to see if I could design a new one. If I come up with something, I'll let you know. Let me know if you have any ideas.

    John

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    JD 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    Here's another angle on the hood guard, and the front weight bracket. It also shows the weight restraining rod, installed without the weights
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    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    Yep, I read about the extension in the owners manual as well. I also tried to find the part, as well as the shaft to hold the weights in place. If only to inform the group.
    I couldn't find either. As I stated in my first post, I got this shaft/rod when I bought the weights at an auction. It turns out to be a perfect fit. It came from an "old" 650 as I recall.

    </font><font color="blue" class="small">( Hey Bill,

    I ran into the same problem. The pivot bolts on the hood guard interfere wiht adding the fifth weight. My old 445 had a front weight extention that allowed 9 weights to be added to the front. The 2210 owners manual discusses this option, but JD parts can't find such a thing. Must be a typo. I kept the old extension in hopes of modifying it for use on the 2210, but things are quite a bit different up front.

    I haven't looked at it much more to see if I could design a new one. If I come up with something, I'll let you know. Let me know if you have any ideas.

    John )</font>
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    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    last one for now, this shows the relocated mounting plate and theslight beveling/rounding I did so it's clear the loader arms. Interesting to note, the left side loader arm cleared without beveling, but the right side did not. I beveled both anyway just to avoid any fure problems.
    Speaking of future problems, I can only hope that I didn't create any new ones by doing this modification. Only time will tell, but I seriously doubt it. The hood guard folds down without any problem and fits soooo much better now. Moving the pivot point up might have some advantages as well.
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    John Deere 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    </font><font color="blue" class="small">( I also tried to find the part, as well as the shaft to hold the weights in place. )</font>

    <font color="green">Part Number: M128726
    Part Price: 17.59 USD
    Description: SHAFT, FRONT WEIGHT RETAINER
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  8. #8

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    JD 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    </font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="green">Part Number: M128726
    Part Price: 17.59 USD
    Description: SHAFT, FRONT WEIGHT RETAINER</font>)</font>

    How did you find that!?

  9. #9
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    John Deere 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    </font><font color="blue" class="small">( How did you find that!? )</font>

    As I recall it's the number my dealer came up with.

    If you search JD Parts for where the M128726 is used you will find it shows up as the front weight retainer for a model 4100. A 4100 handles 5 weights in the front so the shaft for the 2210 to hold 5 weights could well be the same size.

    Any 4100 owners out there who could measure the length and diameter of their front weight retainer shaft so we 2210 owners can verify the same shaft works for both tractors?

    Mike

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    JD 2210

    Default Re: 2210 Hood guard and Weight Bracket

    If it's any help, I can measure the one that I have and post the results if anyone is interested. It wouldn't surprise me if many models use the same shaft.

    I did do a "where used" searched and came up with the reference to the 4100. If you look under "Part Index" it lists the front weight bracket extension kit which includes the shaft (rod) M128726 for 5 weights. I'm guessing, but it's probably a good bet that the Kit will fit the 2210. I ran the KIT P/N BM18997 through JD Parts to see what it cost, but comes back as invalid. One bracket alone shows up as costing $130, so who knows what the whole kit would cost.

    The rod (M128726) shows up as $15.99, but if your dealer is like mine, they are almost always higher $ then what's listed on the web site.

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