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    Default DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    I am seriously considering buying the Ds3510 with a 4 in 1 bucket but would like to know what lever/button they use to control the open/close of the bucket. A photo would be great if possible but anything will do.
    Thanks, Geoff

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    Default Re: DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    There are two ways, first way you will have to add a second hyd. remote to control the "clamshell" on the bucket. It's just like adding hydraulics for a grapple. You would then run the lines from the rear remote under the tractor to the front and the mount a quick disconnect somewhere, either on the loader arm or the crosstube. There you would have your plug-ins for the connectors to the 4 'n 1. The control would be your lever (w/ remote kit) to be added next the the 3pt. lever.

    By the time you add your rear remote and then lines and couplers up the the front, you will have @ $8-900 in it plus your bucket.

    Second way you could go is w/ an electro-hydr. control which would allow you to control the bucket w/ an electric switch which then actuates the hyd. cylinder on the bucket. Then you wouldn't have to add a rear remote. It would be the less expensive way to go.

    What does your dealer recommend?

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    Default Re: DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    How many valves or spools do you have now and are any of them not used.

    You can do the diverter valve thing, or the 3ed function up front located on the lift arms.

    The diverter thing will let you feather, and the 3ed function will be on or off.

    A remote valve at the back could be used if an unused spool is available.
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    Default Re: DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    A true 3rd function is probably the best setup for a 4n1, but usually about $200 more than a simple diverter valve. A diverter valve is a very simple and clean install. I used this handle for my rear diverter valves, but it can be used on a loader handle also. Someday soon I hope I am going to use this type of control handle for my FEL aux hydraulics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TractorTidy View Post
    There are two ways, first way you will have to add a second hyd. remote to control the "clamshell" on the bucket. It's just like adding hydraulics for a grapple. You would then run the lines from the rear remote under the tractor to the front and the mount a quick disconnect somewhere, either on the loader arm or the crosstube. There you would have your plug-ins for the connectors to the 4 'n 1. The control would be your lever (w/ remote kit) to be added next the the 3pt. lever.

    By the time you add your rear remote and then lines and couplers up the the front, you will have @ $8-900 in it plus your bucket.

    Second way you could go is w/ an electro-hydr. control which would allow you to control the bucket w/ an electric switch which then actuates the hyd. cylinder on the bucket. Then you wouldn't have to add a rear remote. It would be the less expensive way to go.

    What does your dealer recommend?
    While adding an extra remote can be expensive with some tractors, most Kioti dealers seem to charge less than what you estimated, especially if you roll it into the negotiated purchase price. Under $450 or so would be typical. Mine cost $350 but that was five years ago.

    The hoses and couplers to run from the rear remote to the 4n1 can cost a few hundred if made up custom by a hydraulic shop or purchased piecemeal from the dealer but viable mail order options can cut that in half.

    Remember too that after buying a dedicated diverter or true third function valve you have just a one trick pony. A rear remote, or better, two, has lots of other very practical uses besides just controlling a grapple or 4n1.

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    Default Re: DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    While adding an extra remote can be expensive with some tractors, most Kioti dealers seem to charge less than what you estimated, especially if you roll it into the negotiated purchase price. Under $450 or so would be typical. Mine cost $350 but that was five years ago.

    The hoses and couplers to run from the rear remote to the 4n1 can cost a few hundred if made up custom by a hydraulic shop or purchased piecemeal from the dealer but viable mail order options can cut that in half.

    Remember too that after buying a dedicated diverter or true third function valve you have just a one trick pony. A rear remote, or better, two, has lots of other very practical uses besides just controlling a grapple or 4n1.

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    I just added a second remote to my DK45. The kit was $350, but took them 3 hrs to install. After I heard what was involved installing with a cab, I decided to let them do it. Apparently it's not too bad on an open station tractor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiotiken View Post

    I just added a second remote to my DK45. The kit was $350, but took them 3 hrs to install. After I heard what was involved installing with a cab, I decided to let them do it. Apparently it's not too bad on an open station tractor.
    I haven't done it as mine came with two but others report it is an easy afternoon shade tree project on an open station tractor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    I haven't done it as mine came with two but others report it is an easy afternoon shade tree project on an open station tractor.
    That was my plan until I was told I'd have to take one of the tires off and it was going to take somebody who knows what they're doing 3 hrs. Those tires are heavy, something like 800# and I really didn't feel like getting into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiotiken View Post

    That was my plan until I was told I'd have to take one of the tires off and it was going to take somebody who knows what they're doing 3 hrs. Those tires are heavy, something like 800# and I really didn't feel like getting into that.
    Yeah, one of the few negatives of loading tires is that it becomes a major safety challenge if you need to remove them.

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    Default Re: DS3510 4 in 1 controls

    Gone with the diverter/switch as the dealer reckoned they work well and nearly 4in 1 tractors they sell have this type of setup. Apparently the switch will be on the joystick. They don't sell many with a 4 in 1, if any at all of this model, mostly just with a fel. Have ordered it and will get it in a week or two.
    Thanks for the i/p
    Geoff

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