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    Default DK 12 speed SYNCHRO vs DS 8 speed CONSTANT MESH

    Can someone help me understand the differences in the gear transmissions in the DK & DS model Kioti's?? My understanding is the 4 main gears in the DK model are fully synchronized; that one can shift on the fly. I was told by a dealer that the same is true with the 4 main gears in the DS models. If that is true I'm surprised Kioti doesn't better advertise the fact on their web site and simply call it a constant mesh gear box. kubota makes the point with their MX series to point out only 3&4th gear are synchronized. I did in fact test a DS 4510 and got some protest from the gear box. It could have just been me. I also tested a Kubota MX5100 and shifted while moving (slowly as the dealers lot was quite congested) and didn't hear any grinding. I realize a full stop is required with both for range changes. I've also tested a MF1652 with power shift which I understand is similar to the DS HS option. I couldn't get it thru my head that I didn't need to clutch. Do DS - HS owners like their HS feature? There's quite a price spread between a DS-HS model and the Massey. Thanks
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    Default Re: DS 12 speed SYNCHRO vs DS 8 speed CONSTANT MESH

    Not real familiar with the DS models. As far as I know the DS models are not synchronized. You need to stop to shift.

    The DK models are synchronized, shift on the go.
    You need to stop to change ranges
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    Default Re: DK 12 speed SYNCHRO vs DS 8 speed CONSTANT MESH

    Quote Originally Posted by gopherbroke View Post
    Can someone help me understand the differences in the gear transmissions in the DK & DS model Kioti's?? My understanding is the 4 main gears in the DK model are fully synchronized; that one can shift on the fly. I was told by a dealer that the same is true with the 4 main gears in the DS models. If that is true I'm surprised Kioti doesn't better advertise the fact on their web site and simply call it a constant mesh gear box. kubota makes the point with their MX series to point out only 3&4th gear are synchronized. I did in fact test a DS 4510 and got some protest from the gear box. It could have just been me. I also tested a Kubota MX5100 and shifted while moving (slowly as the dealers lot was quite congested) and didn't hear any grinding. I realize a full stop is required with both for range changes. I've also tested a MF1652 with power shift which I understand is similar to the DS HS option. I couldn't get it thru my head that I didn't need to clutch. Do DS - HS owners like their HS feature? There's quite a price spread between a DS-HS model and the Massey. Thanks
    12 speeds are better than 8. More choices, Better matching of a desired speed to the task at hand.
    Synchronized transmissions are far more used friendly than collar shift.
    DS series Kiotis are economy spec; DK are more full featured. There are more differences than judst transmission options.
    Hydrostatic and powershift are not what I would call similar, but I suppose some would get the idea that they were.
    We have too much gun control.
    What we need is more idiot control.

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