Please explain DK35 3-point operation

[MarcusCarr]

I just purchased a brand new Kioti DK35 and I am somewhat confused by the two 3-point levers. One lever shows the "arm" raising and lowering. The over lever show "deep" and "shallow"

When I pull either lever, they appear to do the same thing...lift the boxblade.

Also, they do not actually lift the boxblade off the ground until you get to about level 7 (of 10). Should it start lifting at 1 or 2?

Thank you.

Marcus

[IslandTractor]

One lever next to the right side of the seat (the outside one) is the position control and is used to raise or lower the implement. It should raise the implement almost immediately. The other level is the draft control and there is no reason to touch that unless you are plowing or using a subsoiler etc.

In the picture you posted you can also see a long grey lever on the right side of the 3PT hitch. That is a second position control level. Exactly the same function as the lever next to the seat I mentioned above but you can reach it while behind the tractor hooking up an implement.

[MarcusCarr]

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Marcus

[GreenMtns]

As IslandTractor said, MOST work is done with the position control. If you are doing ground engaging work (and your box blade is ground engaging if you are using the scarifier teeth) you would use the draft control. The draft control will sense when the ground pull changes and compensate for that.

For instance,as an example we'll use a moldboard plow. All ground engaging implements would act the same to varying degrees. You would need to check you owners manual to see which of the top link holes to use for draft control. Notice that the casting with the holes for the tractor top link is hinged on one end. The other end is connected to the tractor transmission in some way, usually with a spring or rod. Some manufacturers use the top hole, others use the bottom hole. After attaching your top link on the tractor end in the correct hole you would lower the plow into the ground. The draft control will keep your plow at the depth you set, say for example 6". As you plowed, the ground hardness will change from time to time. When you hit some hard ground the draft control will automatically lower the plow to keep it from popping up out of the ground. When you hit a soft spot the draft control will lift the plow a bit to keep it from going deeper into the ground. All this will be automatic. The tractor operator does not have to continually raise and lower the plow as he would if he only had position control.

So even thought they at first appear to do the same thing, they are really very different. You would not use the draft control for mowing or any other non ground engaging work. However doing ground engaging work without draft control is a bit of a challenge. You have to try to sense when the ground changes and compensate for it with the position control lever. Most often you are a few seconds to late. Your plow is ether on top of the ground or 12" deep by the time you act.

[MarcusCarr]

That makes sense. Thank you.

[DrRick]

I am confused - My dk55c has a weight box on the 3-point and the top link hole is used( which is for non ground engaging use I believe). I can move the position control all day long and nothing happens, however if I use the draft control it lifts the box or lowers it. Now when I have a plow hooked up with the top link in one of the lower holes I can lift the plow off the ground with the position control, and then lift it further by using the draft control. Is this normal?? To clarify the first statement- the weight box can be up and I cannot lower it with the position lever, It only responds to the draft lever. This is the case raising OR lowering the weight box ( or any other implement that would be attached). I also do not have the valve locked that controls the speed of drop of the three point links.
rick roberts

[IslandTractor]

Rick, I am not an expert on this but your control set up doesn't make sense to me. Are you sure the draft and position control were set up properly...could they be reversed?

[GreenMtns]

Hi Rick

If I recall correctly, and this could be checked by other Kioti owners, when I had my DK45s I could lift any attachment with either control IF the other one was in the full down position. Try placing them both down and see if that helps.

It has been a year since I had the tractor so my memory may be off but IslandTractor is right in that your description is just not the way any draft/position control I have ever used worked.

[DrRick]

Thanks- I will try that next week when I get back to the place. I have to replace the door glass ( 2nd time ) when it comes in and I have the tractor in the shed wrapped up to keep mister possum out of the seat. I was stupid and showing the son ( 31 year old )how to work the tractor. Had the door open and just kissed a fence post at the gate. Sounded loud as the entire glass door exploded into little pieces. I hate these expensive lessons. 550.69 dollars lighter today for glass, weatherstrip, and the gas piston. It can always get worse.
rick

[Highbeam]

550.69$!!!!! Yowie zowie!

I get upset with the 80$ busted hydro filter mount lessons.