CK20 does super .. crappy job

[Batche33]

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Originally Posted by bearhawk
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Originally Posted by Batche33
So this is why you haven't been over for coffee

I'll be over Saturday !

Originally Posted by Dmace

Hey now, where's my invite for coffee. I need a landscape rake anyways...

You're always welcome too Derek, we'll see you Saturday also
and we do have a few rakes left, I'll set one aside for you

[plowking]

I've seen a few Enviro Septics fail in 2-5 years. Reasons are system reduction allowed by state couldn't handle the load of a large household,water softener discharge into tank,medications used by family members can hurt the microrganisms in the membrane inside the tubes. The membrane is a living thing and will form sludge when it isn't well,they need air to help the tubes breath,that is where the vents come in. NH doesn't require filters ,vents. That is left up to the designer to decide. The sand directly below the tubes has to be coarse for six inches above the fill sand. I have seen the field fail because seperation layer of coarse sand wasn't used. In a pump up system the doses from pump chamber have to be small frequent doses.I have seen the doses,if pump floats fall out of adjustment or adjusted improperly blow the Dist. box covers off from too much effluent flooding the system,decrease the flow helps. I've pumped the tubes out and let them sit for 72 hours or more,then put back end caps with openings for a manifold with vent[s]. Some work,some don't. Presby has an online installation manual on how to install his systems. plowking

[slowzuki]

Because they don't treat effluent well. They basically inject septic waste into the ground water.

The effluent needs to get into the active layer of the soil so air breathing bacteria can break stuff down.

Originally Posted by Gittyup

Why aren't dry well systems used anymore. I have one and it works great, now in it's 36 year.

[Gittyup]

Originally Posted by slowzuki

Because they don't treat effluent well. They basically inject septic waste into the ground water.

The effluent needs to get into the active layer of the soil so air breathing bacteria can break stuff down.

Thanks for the explanation, Slowsuki. Hope there is a better, long life solution before I need to replace mine.

[LBrown59]

Originally Posted by Dmace

Alright Mr Brown, you want to quickly sling mud at everything posted about leach fields. Please tell me about this amazing system of yours that apparently is light years ahead of everything
I have ever designed/installed.

Yeah, your system hasn't failed yet, well have you tested your drinking water yet. Because if you dont have at least a stone and pipe system or better and are not on a city sewer system then I garauntee that you are contaminating your ground water regularly.

1 ?
If bearhawk has the better set up why is he having the problem not me?

Nother thought:
Why in the heck would I want to drain my tank into an expensive bed like his only to have it plug up thus screwing up my tank that's working fine?

[bearhawk]

Originally Posted by LBrown59

1 ?
If bearhawk has the better set up why is he having the problem not me?

Nother thought:
Why in the heck would I want to drain my tank into an expensive bed like his only to have it plug up thus screwing up my tank that's working fine?

The reasoning behind these kinds of leach fields is to prevent sewerage from going directly into the ground.

If you are ok with your field, thats fine. I am ok with replacing mine because I wrecked it by dumping the water softener into it.

I have a dry well for my water softener now, and before too long I will have another for the washing machine.

The replacement field (with proper maintenance) should now last my lifetime...

[Gittyup]

Getting that washing machine off your septic will help tremendously. They introduce too much water too fast. I just run mine right out onto the ground.

[atgreene]

The biggest issue with fields of any type failing is solids (tiny) entering the field. The more tank capacity allowing time for the solids to settle and break-down the less particles that enter the field. I've never tried one, but the Presby Maze looks interesting to force the solids to settle out. Might be a gimmic, don't know, but the idea is good.

I would like to know what you system is Mr. Brown. It's always nice to hear of another way or a different approach.

Our problem around here is that all the lakes and ponds lead directly to the largest water supply in the state. It also happens to be one of the cleanest lakes in the world, but would not be if folks weren't required to treat their septic waste properly.

[plowking]

Originally Posted by atgreene

The biggest issue with fields of any type failing is solids (tiny) entering the field. The more tank capacity allowing time for the solids to settle and break-down the less particles that enter the field. I've never tried one, but the Presby Maze looks interesting to force the solids to settle out. Might be a gimmic, don't know, but the idea is good.

I would like to know what you system is Mr. Brown. It's always nice to hear of another way or a different approach.

Our problem around here is that all the lakes and ponds lead directly to the largest water supply in the state. It also happens to be one of the cleanest lakes in the world, but would not be if folks weren't required to treat their septic waste properly.

Hi,I've dealt with the Presby Maze system[ this one was in a 5000 gal. tank],it is a pvc pipe frame with rows back and forth of a material or netting.The nettting allows the culture or bacteria to cling to it to do it's job. The inlet baffle is blocked of by plexiglass with a 2 ft. by2 ft. opening in lower right corner,these get jammed real bad with toilet paper. I'd rather see the Maze in a secondary tank and the waste,solids in a primary tank before it. plowking

[atgreene]

The ideal situation would be for 2 tanks anyway, the first would allow most of the solids to settle, the second tank would get most of the rest.

Every system has its benefits and drawbacks.