I think she is dead - Page 5

JoelD · 06-05-2008, 12:01 PM

agreed, this should be the dealer's problem and not yours.

Who is the dealer?

What has the district or corporate service rep had to say?

Limecuda · 06-07-2008, 08:59 PM

Since I was waiting for a solenoid. I decided to pull the old one off. I bumped it a few times hoping it was just sticking. I decided to bump the starter before I put it back on and the tractor fired up without the solenoid. Luckily it has a manual turn off at the pump, but if nothing else it proves it is the solenoid. I appreciate the help. Hopefully the solenoid is here Monday.

IXLR8 · 06-07-2008, 09:05 PM

Is there any chance the solenoid was just stuck? If you put it back in does it work? I am assuming that it is not much of a job to R&R.

Limecuda · 06-07-2008, 10:11 PM

No I played with it hoping to free it up but once reinstalled it once again refused to crank. Still aggravating to have to rely on the good folks at a message board versus the dealer.

plowking · 06-08-2008, 07:53 AM

Is this tractor used for your business? My dealer has a policy[ different brand] of getting you a loaner,while your tractor is down. Normally a person couldn't afford to lose a weeks wages or rent a replacement machine. If part wasn't a warranty item you might get it faster from a bigger dealer online. If your dealer was really concerned,he would get you the solenoid off one of his tractors,replace it when your part comes in. Hope you make out fine. plowking

nogin007 · 06-09-2008, 10:25 AM

I don't know if it could be related, but I have an old MF 135 that recently had a starting problem. I told my son I thought the solenoid was bad, so he took it off and rebuilt it(he's a mechanic). He checked some other things, and told me to try it. It cranked, and ran good for a few days. This time he checked it himself, not listening to my suggestions. He told me I had a ground problem some where. I checked all the attachment points. I had a new ground cable for the nattery, so I decided to replace it. That fixed my problem. Even though it looked good, and continuity checked with a meter, the cable had some corrosion inside, and wasn't getting full contact at times. Hope this helps.

wallace · 06-09-2008, 11:19 AM

If you want to continue to use your tractor you can remove the solenoid and cut the shaft off. put the solenoid back in and use the manual shut off on top of the pump like you did before.

bearhawk · 06-09-2008, 07:52 PM

If you are not sure if it is actually the solenoid, or the electrics that control it...

Hold off on ruining it unless you are sure...

DirtHauler · 06-11-2008, 10:30 PM

Try checking the relay, It's on the firewall, right side. Above the Hydralic pump. Hold your finger on it and turn the key off/on, you will feel it "click" if it's good. (it's got the "orange" connector)

Limecuda · 06-12-2008, 12:19 AM

It is the solenoid. The dealer had to reorder another after getting the wrong one in. I modified the old one to get the tractor running while I wait for the new one.

06-05-2008, 12:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
JoelD Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Windham, NH Posts: 381	Re: I think she is dead agreed, this should be the dealer's problem and not yours. Who is the dealer? What has the district or corporate service rep had to say? __________________ Joel 2004 Kioti LK3054XS TLB John Deere 350B Dozer with Six Way Blade

06-07-2008, 08:59 PM	#42 (permalink)
Limecuda Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S/E Texas Posts: 124	Re: I think she is dead Since I was waiting for a solenoid. I decided to pull the old one off. I bumped it a few times hoping it was just sticking. I decided to bump the starter before I put it back on and the tractor fired up without the solenoid. Luckily it has a manual turn off at the pump, but if nothing else it proves it is the solenoid. I appreciate the help. Hopefully the solenoid is here Monday.

06-07-2008, 09:05 PM	#43 (permalink)
IXLR8 Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mid-Coast Maine Posts: 502	Re: I think she is dead Is there any chance the solenoid was just stuck? If you put it back in does it work? I am assuming that it is not much of a job to R&R. __________________ Jim - Husky W4814- 48" walk behind lawn mower. For my 1.7 acres of lawn. - '06 Kioti CK30 HST - KL130 loader w/reinforcing bracket, SS QA, LK3054 QA bucket, engine coolant heater, dual rear remotes, KB2375 Backhoe w/thumb, 7ft 6 way rear blade, chains front/rear, loaded rear tires, Kioti Canopy. For eveything else.

06-07-2008, 10:11 PM	#44 (permalink)
Limecuda Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S/E Texas Posts: 124	Re: I think she is dead No I played with it hoping to free it up but once reinstalled it once again refused to crank. Still aggravating to have to rely on the good folks at a message board versus the dealer.

06-08-2008, 07:53 AM	#45 (permalink)
plowking Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham, N.H. Posts: 343	Re: I think she is dead Is this tractor used for your business? My dealer has a policy[ different brand] of getting you a loaner,while your tractor is down. Normally a person couldn't afford to lose a weeks wages or rent a replacement machine. If part wasn't a warranty item you might get it faster from a bigger dealer online. If your dealer was really concerned,he would get you the solenoid off one of his tractors,replace it when your part comes in. Hope you make out fine. plowking

06-09-2008, 10:25 AM	#46 (permalink)
nogin007 New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Wellington AL Posts: 5	Re: I think she is dead I don't know if it could be related, but I have an old MF 135 that recently had a starting problem. I told my son I thought the solenoid was bad, so he took it off and rebuilt it(he's a mechanic). He checked some other things, and told me to try it. It cranked, and ran good for a few days. This time he checked it himself, not listening to my suggestions. He told me I had a ground problem some where. I checked all the attachment points. I had a new ground cable for the nattery, so I decided to replace it. That fixed my problem. Even though it looked good, and continuity checked with a meter, the cable had some corrosion inside, and wasn't getting full contact at times. Hope this helps.

06-09-2008, 11:19 AM	#47 (permalink)
wallace Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PA. Posts: 1,408	Re: I think she is dead If you want to continue to use your tractor you can remove the solenoid and cut the shaft off. put the solenoid back in and use the manual shut off on top of the pump like you did before. __________________ Wallace Tractor and Equipment www.wallacetractorandequipment.com RICK WALLACE (570) 689-7494

06-09-2008, 07:52 PM	#48 (permalink)
bearhawk Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Milton, New Hampshire Posts: 317	Re: I think she is dead If you are not sure if it is actually the solenoid, or the electrics that control it... Hold off on ruining it unless you are sure...

06-11-2008, 10:30 PM	#49 (permalink)
DirtHauler Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northern Cali ~~~ Wine Country Posts: 308	Re: I think she is dead Try checking the relay, It's on the firewall, right side. Above the Hydralic pump. Hold your finger on it and turn the key off/on, you will feel it "click" if it's good. (it's got the "orange" connector) Attached Thumbnails __________________ CK30 "gear drive", R4s; FEL w/toothbar; 60" RC; 66" Box Blade; Caroni TL 1500 & TM 1600 Flails; 66" CCM tiller; 14 & 16' IronEagle trailers.

06-12-2008, 12:19 AM	#50 (permalink)
Limecuda Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S/E Texas Posts: 124	Re: I think she is dead It is the solenoid. The dealer had to reorder another after getting the wrong one in. I modified the old one to get the tractor running while I wait for the new one.

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