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    JD 755, Kioti DK40SE

    Default Block heater for cab tractors

    I don't like starting a cold diesel in the dead of winter and it can be plenty cold where I am located in January & February.

    I discussed this with my dealer and he told me that Kioti's official stance on this is their tractors do not require a block heater.

    The dealer agreed with me that a block heater is preferred and it means you get instant heat in the cab with you start it up.

    The dealer recommended a lower rad hose heater and if there was ever a problem with the engine, a simple swap of the lower hose would bring the tractor back into warranty compliance.

    I inspected the lower hose on the weekend and noticed that return water line from the cab heat exchanger is located there, I think I can sneak the heater in front of the cab return line but the heater will be sitting level with the ground which is sub optimal from what I can understand and there isn't enough room to put one after the return line.

    Has anyone else run up against this problem? What was your solution? At this point I'm thinking that it's either going to be a case of doing without or get the Bobcat kit and modify then engine or go with a magnetic heater if there is a clear spot to stick one.

    Jason

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    Kioti 3054xs TLB

    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    I don't believe a block heater will void your warranty, and I would prefer this type of heater to a hose heater. IMO, a block heater is more efficient, quicker and less intrusive
    2004 3054xs
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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    Based on what my dealer has told me, Kioti used to consider installing any sort of heater to void the engine warranty. They are starting to soften on this but it's not cut and dry. Given that there is no factory solution and you need to go to Bobcat for the parts indicates there is still an issue.

    Given the engine only has 11 hours on it and I have 4 years of warranty in front of me I'm not going to risk anything. Worst case a magnetic heater will be better then nothing

    Jason

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    KIOTI DK50 HST

    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    I agree with you on this and I know that Wallace tractor has a heater that will work without modding anything, same engine as the bobcat. I am not comfortable starting a diesel at 25 below F without a heater. Talk to your dealer for his blessing. As far as a magnetic heater good luck. I was going to use a stick on heater on the oil pan but there is no flat space. I will not use a dipstick heater sooo the immersion look to be the way to go. CJ
    Kioti DK50HST Cab
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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    I believe a block type heater is the best for any motor.

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    Kioti DK45SC

    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    My '06 DK45SC came with a block heater. Don't they do that anymore??
    BOB

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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    We get 40 below here, I'll take my chances on voiding the warranty as opposed to no block heater. Every one of our vehicles has one, and they NEED it at those temps.

    You can always put the freeze plug back in, but I have no idea how a decent dealer could relate a block heater to causing warranty voiding damage.

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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    You do need to be cautious when removing any frost plug as many tractors have the cylinder sleeve almost touching the frost plug. That is why many kubota models have a frost plug extension with the block heater. Don't go banging and drilling recklessly when removing the frost plug.

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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    My dealer installs lower rad heaters standard and did so on both my CK30 and DK45 cab. It's a little tight in there, but it fits exactly where you described on the DK. I haven't had the DK45 though the winter, but the heater worked very well with the CK30. I had a true block heater on my JD 955 and I think it was faster, but the lower rad heater does the job too. I've never heard about the warranty being an issue. I've never asked to have it installed, they just come that way from my dealer. I'd have to imagine he'd have to stand behind it.

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    Default Re: Block heater for cab tractors

    I had two Nissan sentra's a year apart (bought new)- back when the temps would be 20-25 below. My wife's had a radiator hose heater installed and the other one didn't. After 7 years, my wife's car needed a head gasket. The sentra without the heater was fine. I don't know if there was a connection- but I always wondered. We kept it plugged in a lot.
    2003 NH TC30, 5' International Agritech Bushog, Hiller/Bedder, + miscellaneous and sundry items of use.

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