I spent 27-30 thousand dollars on a tractor I've had for 2-mo's or so, the dealer just goes under, don't know what to do with all the problems I'm having, and then you close the thread on upper valley where i bought it so now we do not know what is going on. What are forums for if ya can't vent as long as ya tell the truth. Dave himself did some bashing but he is sooo good with words, well you get the drift.
I don't get it
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It seems to me that in a situation where a dealer goes under that the manufacturer should step in and transition those who purchased tractors that are still within the warranty period to another dealer. This might cause a bit more travel for some owners. Hopefully the manufacturer either knows who purchased tractors or can find out.
In lieu of an intentional transition process by the manufacturer, I recommend an "new" tractor owner either contact "manufacturer name" USA and/or the nearest, still in business, manufacturer's dealer.
In lieu of an intentional transition process by the manufacturer, I recommend an "new" tractor owner either contact "manufacturer name" USA and/or the nearest, still in business, manufacturer's dealer.
Kubotakarl
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What problems are you having with it?
they put 2485 backhoe on my ck35 which is only supposed to take up to 2385 an when it gets hot i have to literally use 2 hands to get out of forward gear into reverse or back into forward, but the best part is at 9 hrs they put in NEW transmission which they took out of another tractor off the lot. So they said *** another cust was also torn apart at the time. Their mechanic is great but is only doing what told. To clinch it, Dave told me to use tractor till mid october and then bring it in for hst tractor(trade in for)then guess what? OUT of business. Who knows, am at present a little bitter but not at Kioti.
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kiotiken
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I'm confused. You're using two hands to switch between forward and reverse, so you must have a gear transmission, so why would you go back "for hst" in mid October? Anyway, the CK35 is a great tractor. I had a CK30 with tons of issues, had a new hst put in and all the other issues where being fixed as they came up. I'm sure I had a bit of a lemon and my experience wasn't typical, and maybe you're in the same boat. It never changed my opinion that it was a stronger, heavier and better equipped tractor than any of the alternatives. Dealer support is huge, especially when you're having issues as you are and I did, and it's unfortunate that you've now lost your dealer. From many different posts from many members, this dealer was very well respected and went above and beyond in the past, so it's not nice to see them struggle. I'm not sure how far away his other dealership is from you, but maybe he'll help with transportation given the circumstances.
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only supposed to take up to 2385 an when it gets hot ??? What do you mean "when it gets hot"?
Ductape
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Are you saying that you have a one-size-larger than recommended hoe on your tractor and it now has HST problems? Doesn't sound like one has to do with another.
ritcheyvs
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Do you have a clutch adjustment problem?? I'm assuming you have a gear transmission, here. Clutch check/adjustment is a fairly easy owner service item in the back of the owner's manual. A misadjusted clutch can cause costly damage.
Markcuda
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This thread should get good at some point and time.
DK35vince
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Sounds to me like he needs to make up his mind which transmission he has.
Buckgnarly
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Are tractor warranties like cars in that you can go to any dealer you want for service?
I also thought they only closed one location, but still in business in Enfield if I'm not mistaken.
There are other Kioti dealers closer than ME, two here in VT.
I also thought they only closed one location, but still in business in Enfield if I'm not mistaken.
There are other Kioti dealers closer than ME, two here in VT.
OK . I bought a new ck35 with GEAR transmission and backhoe.(27000.00) At 9-22 hrs you could not move shuttle shift without grinding, they put in a new transmission from a tractor on lot. Supossed to be new. The backhoe i ordered was a 2475 but they did not stock one so they put in a 2485 so I would not have to wait 3 mo's to get 1. Another 1000.00 and no waiting so they said. So when using hoe after 4-5 hrs when fluid is hot it will not go into forward using the shuttle shift. So with all this crap I had go wrong, I talked to Dave about trading for HST tractor so my wife could use it. She did not have any strength to use shuttle shift when fluid was hot. The clutch is perfectly adjusted and has NOTHING to do with the grinding. They said the sink rows were completely shot plus whatever. This is all at 9 hr which was what I received the tractor with. Had a bit of a tough time. When cold, it shifts fine, since new trans. Go figure. I never got to trade for HST tractor, because he told me to come in the first of oct, 2012 and he is now out of business the beginning of oct., 2012 Go figure. Not a satisfied cust at this time but Kioti may be working with me. I will find that out Monday.It's been an experience for sure. I received tract with 7-9 hrs on it so do not know who put it through what. Was told the backhoe was only 29 lbs. heavier and would not be a problem. They came out to service it 3 times, for the backhoe loosening up, and finally welded it with SOLID beads. They said ,no problem. That's about it.
I'm not sure what happed to upper valley as their reputation was good as far as I knew. Ya never really know till ya walk in their shoes for a while. Life does have ups an downs. All I ever needed was tell it like it is.Their mechanic is one of the BEST. Even argues good without going off the deep end. Will keep ya posted Kioti calls me Monday.
I'm not sure what happed to upper valley as their reputation was good as far as I knew. Ya never really know till ya walk in their shoes for a while. Life does have ups an downs. All I ever needed was tell it like it is.Their mechanic is one of the BEST. Even argues good without going off the deep end. Will keep ya posted Kioti calls me Monday.
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tractor is gear. Supposed to trade for hst tractor so wife can shift it. I know what I have Mr. Vince, you must have missed 1st post as they closed the thread.
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I asked someone about them but they closed thread. There is supposed to be another dealer taking over but that is heresay at this point. I have seen Daves vechiels there but was told by employ that they pulled plug. Don't know anymore as I am working Kioti
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That Backhoe does not belong on that machine. How did they hook up your hydraulic lines to the BH? They ran my return to the trans fill port to cut down on heat.
Markcuda
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All re read post number 10.LOOLOLLOLOLOLO
murphy1244 said:
The plumbing to the return port is only for a flow issue on the se series dk's. No other series tractor requires or benefits from this "quick" fix regardless of backhoe size. As far as there being a KB 2485 back hoe on a ck series tractor, yes, kioti does not specify that hoe as a fit on it... however, it is only 40lbs heavier, preforms slightly better than the KB 2475, and if you look at the specs, is the same as the comparable woods 8.5' backhoe that many dealers have installed for several years on the Ck series tractors.
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40lbs here, 40lbs there. Might be the straw that breaks the tractors back. PS Welcome to TBN.
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The OP is trying to get some help from this thread so if you're here just to be useless go back to the Deere forums.
The thread bashing Upper Valley was closed, as stated pending review of the TBN administration for content and other issues, This is what happens when people attempt to bash others or dealers / manufacturers, etc.
As stated by the OP and others a KB-2485 does NOT belong on CK series tractors. Weight is but one aspect of why a particular hoe is suited to a particular size tractor.
You should be given the correct hoe by Upper Valley, or Kioti, or whomever your next dealer you take it to. Tractors are NOT required to go to selling dealer, just an authorized dealer while under factory warranty.
Incorrect applications of a Kioti or other brand hoe could void your tractor's warranty- but that should not be your problem since you didn't match the hoe to the tractor- your dealer did- and they should know better than to put a higher series hoe with the smaller series tractor.
Does your tractor only have issues when using the hoe as far as overheating the oil? I suspect you're referring to the transmission oil? Any problems with overheating of any kind, oil, coolant, etc., or shifting if you have not used the hoe at all on a particular day?
We understand your frustration with the current situation with your dealer not being there for you; and you may be able to work something out with him at his other location - which is what I would try to do IMHO if I were you. He and his mechanic know you and your tractor best at this point.
Keep us posted and keep ALL paperwork for any and all transactions done to date and going forward.
The thread bashing Upper Valley was closed, as stated pending review of the TBN administration for content and other issues, This is what happens when people attempt to bash others or dealers / manufacturers, etc.
As stated by the OP and others a KB-2485 does NOT belong on CK series tractors. Weight is but one aspect of why a particular hoe is suited to a particular size tractor.
You should be given the correct hoe by Upper Valley, or Kioti, or whomever your next dealer you take it to. Tractors are NOT required to go to selling dealer, just an authorized dealer while under factory warranty.
Incorrect applications of a Kioti or other brand hoe could void your tractor's warranty- but that should not be your problem since you didn't match the hoe to the tractor- your dealer did- and they should know better than to put a higher series hoe with the smaller series tractor.
Does your tractor only have issues when using the hoe as far as overheating the oil? I suspect you're referring to the transmission oil? Any problems with overheating of any kind, oil, coolant, etc., or shifting if you have not used the hoe at all on a particular day?
We understand your frustration with the current situation with your dealer not being there for you; and you may be able to work something out with him at his other location - which is what I would try to do IMHO if I were you. He and his mechanic know you and your tractor best at this point.
Keep us posted and keep ALL paperwork for any and all transactions done to date and going forward.
